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Ask the American!

1 :hyf270:2006/10/10(火) 17:22:01
Hello! Here you can ask me any question you want, and i'll answer it!
Ask me about the food, the people, the weather, or anything else you want.
I don't speak much Japanese, and my PC is broken so I cannot type, so please use english.

You can also ask me to explain any slang you hear, and i'll do my best to explain it


I'm looking forward to your replies!

2 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/10(火) 17:42:15
What's the difference between "Ask the American" and "Ask an American"?

3 :hyf270:2006/10/10(火) 17:59:59
Different posters!

Also, an 'something' usually means one out of something, like an apple would mean any apple out of a bunch. 'The' means "That" something, "that apple" would mean a specific apple, such as one you're point at.

4 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/10(火) 18:45:22
http://manga.clone-army.org/t42r.php?page=152&lang=

In the third frame, a guy says "all get naked and stack on top of each other"
I can't imagine this situation. what does "top" mean?
Can you tell me what it is?

5 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/10(火) 18:57:28
>>1
A copule of years ago, A friend of mine(a Japanese who still lives in US) was hit by a car.
He was badly wounded in the accident, but the driver who was American did not say "I'm sorry" or
anything like that. Why is it? Why is it so hard for Americans to say simple "I'm sorry" ?

6 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/10(火) 19:06:16
>5
不用意に責任認めるようなこと言えば裁判のとき不利になるからだろ。常識だよ
台風のせいで電車が止まって会社に遅れても謝るのは世界中で日本人だけだ


7 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/10(火) 19:10:55
本人じゃねーし、んなこと知るか!俺ならちゃんと謝るよ!
って言われそうだなw



8 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/10(火) 19:13:36
>台風のせいで電車が止まって会社に遅れても謝る

アメリカ人もフランス人も中国人もインド人もこれ見て驚くのよね
「なんで自分のせいじゃないのに謝るの?」

9 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/10(火) 19:15:06
Hey guys, Speak English!


10 :5:2006/10/10(火) 19:23:15
Thanks for your thoughts, guys.
But I want to know what hyf270 thinks about it.
So please answer my question, hyf270!!!!



11 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/11(水) 03:19:38
hyf270ちんはどした?
立て逃げかい

12 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/11(水) 03:29:02
ごめんなさい一つもいえない国なのかアメリカって
どこが自由の国なんだか

13 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/11(水) 09:27:08
Why are Americans so obsessed with sex ?

14 :A Person:2006/10/11(水) 11:07:38
>>13
Where do you get that perception?

15 :A Person:2006/10/11(水) 11:12:39
>>5
It's a pride issue. Not all Americans are like that, however. Some just feel
superior to others even fellow Americans of the same status. Being a Chinese American
I see that there are subtle superiority complexes within the American culture. You can
find that this is not uncommon because anywhere in the world, someone has an overbearingly
large amount of pride, thus making a simple "I'm sorry" hard to say.

16 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/11(水) 11:39:58
I'm confused.
hyf270=A person ???

17 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/11(水) 11:47:22
No. hyf270 = another only mother tongue loser.

18 :hyf270:2006/10/11(水) 13:16:45
>>4
Top is to be above something.
In a stack of people:
(^-^) <-Top
(~_~) <-Middle
(x_x) <-Bottom
He wants the women to be on each other.. He doesn't mean any person specifically to be above the rest, just to make a pile.

>>5
I'm sorry this happened. There are a lot of americans who are extremely
rude; but then there are those of us who are nice too. A lot of times,
Americans do not like to apologize for things, as it makes them feel
bad or guilty about what they have done, which is what >>15 is talking
about- and in general we do not like to accept responsibility for what
we do.


19 :hyf270:2006/10/11(水) 13:18:03

>>13
Well, we aren't really more
obsessed with sex more than any other country, but our media
(radio, TV, magazines, stuff like that) has more sex in it, to
try to appeal to people's senses and sell things.

>>17
Actually, i'm working on learning japanese now.. I study hiragana
and katakana when I can ^^ I have books and practice all the
time. I have many japanese friends (I play FF11), so sometimes
they help me with things- and I help them with english ^^
I'd love to learn Japanese, and be able to communicate with my
friends in their natural language, as well as visit japan!
I think you're a very interesting country, and i'd love to visit
as soon as I know enough to survive.
hiragana and katakana are very hard for me though, because i'm
not good at memorizing things, and my school only offers Spanish
and French classes (personally I think it is very stupid to teach
french, as Japanese, Arabic, and Chinese would be far more useful
in today's world)
---
Sorry it took me so long to update, I was unable to check 2ch while I was at school

20 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/11(水) 13:20:00
>>19
Where do you live?
How old are you?
How much do you earn?

21 :4:2006/10/11(水) 13:30:48
>18 I got it, thanks

(^-^) <-Top
(~_~) <-Middle
(x_x) <-Bottom

it's funny, you must hang around 4 chan

22 :hyf270:2006/10/11(水) 14:04:50
>>21 I spend more time on 4-ch.net than 4chan.org But I got the faces from FF11
I'm glad I could help you! Ask again if you need any more help ^^


>>20
I live in the center of the USA! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Map_of_USA_highlighting_Kansas.png <-this place

I'm currently 15 years old, and i'm a student, so I don't earn anything.

23 :A Person:2006/10/11(水) 20:42:38
>>17
Actually, I don't believe in that everybody should learn English, only if they
aim to live here and make a living. However, my situation is, if I want
to live and work in Japan, I'll learn Japanese. That is what I'm doing now in
college. So giving reverse stereotypic remarks is rather an insult to society.

And no, I'm not hyf270, am a different person entirely.

24 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/11(水) 20:50:58
うんこうんこー

25 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/11(水) 20:55:53
>>23
Seems like you'll have to learn the language and read the 2ch rules.
Do not post any comment without understanding them chink.
http://info.2ch.net/guide/faq.html

26 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/11(水) 21:14:00
>>23
How old are you?
Where do you live?
What is your religion?
How often do you have sex in a week?

27 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/11(水) 21:16:16
>>22
You live in Kansas!!
What a coincidence!!
I have alsolutely no idea about Kansas!!
What's Kansas famous for??

28 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/11(水) 21:39:54
Kansas BSE beef lol

29 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/11(水) 22:16:07
I've heard Americans don't eat Beef as much as before because of BSE.
Then, started to have more fish these days. Is that true?

30 :A Person:2006/10/11(水) 23:20:57
>>25
I'll forget about that racial slur and apologize for not reading that line carefully.

Second off, I am learning the language.

This has nothing to do with >>17. This is what I was really trying to say
in >>23. I meant that English shouldn't be thought of as the dominant language in the world and that it is
ignorance that Americans like myself solely believe that English should be spread and be the only
main language. We shouldn't live in the basis that where ever we go, people should know English.
That's why I say that it is our duty as foreigners to cater to other cultures and languages. So, in the
end, any American that come here is seeking to learn Japanese and also here to help you understand
where we come from and our language.

Honestly, I'm not out to flame anybody and that comment in >>23 was purely out of ill-context. I mis-read
the sentence. However, I do believe that racial slur was a bit overboard.

31 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/11(水) 23:24:37
>>30
Do you believe in God?
If not, you go to hell. sorry.

32 :A Person:2006/10/11(水) 23:32:49
>>31
I believe in God, and I'm a Christian for the person in >>26. And, I'm from
Ohio. My age is 18 but I'll be 19 very, very soon.

33 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/12(木) 01:55:02
> hyf270
> A person

I didn't know that people get wounded in car accidents.
Is it so just in Kansas and Ohio, or does it happen in other states, too?

34 :A Person:2006/10/12(木) 02:16:07
It happend everywhere. Every country has car accidents. If you don't live in an
area with many cars, they are less frequent so the news may not be reported. However
there are always car accidents where there are cars and people do die or get injuries. It's rather unfortunate.

35 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/12(木) 02:41:04
In the United States, people wear shoes on their heads and
hamburgers eat people. It's crazy!

36 :A Person:2006/10/12(木) 02:50:27
>>35
In a way... That's so very true.

37 :hyf270:2006/10/12(木) 05:31:58
>>27 Wheat (what bread is made from)


That is about it. We also are famous for an old movie,
The Wizard of Oz, because it takes place here.


Other than that, even though we're in the middle of the country,
we aren't really famous.
The town I live in is said to be the #13 best place
to live in the country though!
And the town across the street is #6.

Kansas doesn't actually raise too much beef. Most cattle in the USA
I think is in Texas and Iowa.
After the Mad Cow (BSE) scare, there was a
little sag in the beef market,
but it's not really been noticed.
Right now, it's made some people realize that meat (including chicken,
because of bird flu) can be dangerous, but in general
we won't learn our lesson until something very bad happens.


38 :hyf270:2006/10/12(木) 05:33:43

>>29

Actually, as I said above, I don't think
too many americans have seriously changed their diet.
There has been a lot of talk lately about Tuna, and if it's
good for your brain, or bad for your body.
Basically the argument is that Tuna is good for you,
but the pollution in Tuna can cause disease.
So it's recommended you have some Tuna, but not too much.

I think more Americans probably are eating
fish though, because Sushi is becoming
very popular here. Personally I can't stand it
(I think the seaweed is what I don't like),
but businesses and formal dinners are being held over
sushi a lot more often than steak now.
I suppose it's the stylish thing to do.

>>35

Actually, with all the stuff companies (McDonalds, Burger King [BK]) put in meat,
and how obese americans are getting (i'll admit, i'm oversize too...), it won't be too
long before our hamburger overlords have complete control over us.

Actually, I read that there are so many hormones (http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormones
kind of explains them, but basically they
imply the chemicals in your body that control sex and puberty) in most hamburgers here, that
some boys are actually growing breasts (Not fat, actual breasts! No milk, though)
from it, and the age most kids reach puberty has dropped two or even three years!


39 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/12(木) 08:11:40
>>5
Probably multiple reasons. Some Americans are just plain mean and rude.
Sometimes there's resistance to apologizing if people don't think they're
"wrong". And lastly: some insurance companies forbid you from admitting
fault, even if it's obvious you did it - and an apology could count as
admitting fault.

I, too, am sorry about your friend.

40 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/12(木) 22:36:33
I've heard that American kids enjoy summer camp in summer.
I've herad that there are various kinds of summer camp.

Whould you tell me your summer camp experiences?
What's interesting about it?

Is it only for kids from wealthy family?

41 :A Person:2006/10/13(金) 01:23:08
>>40
I've never been to summer camp, but usually middle class families and up
will send their kids to summer camp. Usually to build "character".

42 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/13(金) 01:30:40
Build "characer"? LOL
They should start by teaching their children to say "I'm sorry."

43 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/13(金) 01:57:10
>>42
what you're saying reminds me of what always many Korean say to Japanese.

44 :A Person:2006/10/13(金) 02:40:05
>>42
I'm sorry that you see us as rude, ill-cultured, self-indulgent people.
That we push into people and not even say we're sorry. We have no polite
mannerisms, and no self control. It's a shame that we don't say sorry enough.

45 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/13(金) 03:06:56
>>44
I don't think you are a bad person, but somehow, maybe it's just me,
you kind of sound sarcastic.

46 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/13(金) 03:37:55
>>44
It really depends on what part of the US you're in. The east coast, for
instance, comes across as much more rude, unapologetic, etc. Minnesota,
on the other hand, tends to be super-duper polite - so much so, in fact,
that a lot of the Japanese politeness rules remind me of there quite a
bit.

47 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/13(金) 06:29:58
>>41
Thank you for your response.

48 :A Person:2006/10/13(金) 10:53:33
>>45
The fact of the matter is that I'm being truthful. I'm a kid myself still, but
the younger generations are degrading so much. It really saddens me to see that
the only fun that 9 year olds in my neighborhood can think of is to be rude and
disrespective to other people's lives. And, I live in a middle class area as well.
It does depend on the parents and how they rear up their children. As a young adult,
I feel a duty to represent the young population in a good way.

>>46
It does depend on the region as well. Much like in other countries as well. Regional
differences and the way they bring up society in those areas determines the mannerisms.
I know that they people in Indiana are very homely, even in their capital city.

>>47
You're welcome.

49 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/13(金) 11:05:07
チンク野郎、ウザイ

50 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/13(金) 11:06:54
>>49
In English!

51 :A Person:2006/10/13(金) 12:34:11
>>49
First of all, don't underestimate people, just because you type it in Japanese
doesn't mean that I can't find some means to figure out what it says. I don't go
around calling you under racial slurs and I don't disrespect you at all.

Don't try to hide anything through dry schemes. It never works.

>>50
Thank you.

52 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/13(金) 12:55:43
>>51
I'm just curious, but how many languages do you speak?
I speak Japanese fluently (of course, it's my native language!)
and some English which I learned in school and at home.

53 :A Person:2006/10/13(金) 13:01:54
>>52
I speak English, can understand some Cantonese (but don't speak), and sort of speak and
understand Spanish. I'm currently taking Japanese and plan to pursue that
then try and learn Cantonese and Mandarin until I can speak them.

The thing about Spanish is that, if you can read and understand it, you can most
likely look at French and Italian and be able to read those to some degree
as well.

54 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/13(金) 13:15:10
>>53
I think you should be a linguist!
My hands are full learning just English.
Language Genius must run in your family.

55 :A Person:2006/10/13(金) 13:18:28
>>54
I thought about it, but I already made my decision on my major and
I'm sticking with it. My dad is the amazing person, he knows Cantonese, Mandarin, Vietnamese,
and English. He doesn't even have an accent in his English speech, but it's not even his
native tongue.

56 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/13(金) 13:26:36
>>55
I was right!
Language Genius does run in your family.
My dad has a local accent even in Japanese. lol
Anyways, good luck on your study!

57 :A Person:2006/10/13(金) 13:28:21
>>56
Thank you, I'll try to. Good luck to you, too.

58 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/13(金) 13:36:32
what do you think about http://www.keikos-homepage.jp/funtime.htm

59 :A Person:2006/10/13(金) 13:42:11
>>58
Haha, that rules me out! However, it's an interesting way to draw in guys.

60 :hyf270:2006/10/13(金) 16:57:56
>>52
I know this question wasn't aimed at me, but I personally speak a tiny bit of japanese,
and i've been taking spanish in school now for around 2 years. I also was in a spanish
club a long time ago. My mother took spanish in high school, and can speak better than my dad,
who learned spanish before english.

>>58
Well, she says you have to be good looking, so i'm out!



61 :hyf270:2006/10/13(金) 17:00:16
>>40

Well, summer camps used to be reserved
for middle-class+ families, I see
a lot of programs now that let poor kids go too.
Many times, the parents use them
to keep their kids busy during their summer break,
so that they don't have to hire a babysitter.

There are many different types of summer camps.
Some of them, like Boy Scouts,
are like camps out in the forest, with activities like
shooting mini-guns, races, and stuff like that.
There are also camps that are more like schools,
one I went to offered many special courses over the summer.
Like Movies, Music, art. Personally, I took a course in
flying an airplane, rock climbing, and paintball!
I actually got to fly an airplane, but I never got very far up
the rock wall (I'm afraid of high places >.<), and I quit
paintball (guns with bullets made of paint) after two days
because it hurt so bad!



62 :hyf270:2006/10/13(金) 17:00:56

There's also Space Camp, which is run by NASA
(National Aeronautics and Space Administration,
the part of the government that handles space vehicles)

I went there once for a few days, it was very fun!
We got to build model-rockets and shoot them,
We got to sit in chairs that
made us feel like we were in space, they had a chair that made you
feel like you were on the moon
We even got to eat the same
kind of food the astronaughts (spaceship people) do!

The inside of the building they kept us in even looked like the inside of a space station!

They also had a machine that looked like a space shuttle, and we got to
pretend we were on a real mission!
When I was in space, I was a technician, I had to fix things in space.
- But my headset didn't work, so the ship went back to earth without me! hahaha
When I was in Mission Control, I was the leader of it all, but a lot of times
I didn't know what to do, so my mom had to help instead, and I got angry XD

Overall, it was a lot of fun. If you ever get the chance to go with your kid,
or even just send them- as long as they speak english as well as you do,
it would be a lot of fun for them

63 :A Person:2006/10/13(金) 21:52:06
>>60
Plus she's 26, so that's a little out of my age range. I say 2 years younger,
2 years older, that's my range.

64 :hyf270:2006/10/13(金) 23:28:54
>>63
I've got nothing against older women, however I might be a bit too young for her..^^
[see above]


65 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/13(金) 23:48:05
I have a question,sir.
If you see somebody who has big boobs, what will you do?

66 :A Person:2006/10/13(金) 23:48:26
>>64
Don't get me wrong, I like older women, but it's just my own preference in
the age range/scale.

Yeah, she might want to put an age restriction for how young they can be.

67 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/14(土) 00:41:47
I want to talk with women of America.
Please tell me the way of those things.
And Where should I go for it?

68 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/14(土) 01:05:37
>>58
She's cute, but... I'd worry she'd be a little crazy. In a bad way.

69 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/14(土) 01:26:53
What's "Bad way"?

70 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/14(土) 01:28:51
It must be a hoax.

71 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/14(土) 01:31:15
>>69
Some kinds of crazy are fun: going and doing fun things at random, doing
the unexpected, things like that. Some kinds of crazy are not so fun:
screaming, vindictiveness, being abusive, being super-possessive.

72 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/14(土) 01:43:55
Hoax!!It's very difficult word for Japanease to use.

You are American.aren't u?Come on! Write your name.Of course.It's Ok!If u use aliases.


73 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/14(土) 01:50:20
Yes, I'm 100% Japanese. Thank you.

74 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/14(土) 01:53:19
NO! you can't be.
I think you are 90 percent Japanese, 10 percent Korean or something.
Every Japanese is like that.

75 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/14(土) 02:01:16
lol
I didn't see that coming.
Then, I must be 90 percent Japanese and 10 percent of whatever.

76 :A Person:2006/10/14(土) 03:20:01
>>71
You can't forget the type of stalker, sex, clingy, crazies that are
out there.

>>67
Try looking into dating services, or internet penpal services. You can
meet American girls through those, but they usually charge. If you get
Yahoo! Instant Messenger, you can find chat rooms or do member searches
for people that are interested in talking to people from other countries.

77 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/14(土) 03:33:07
Looks like someone has some experience in those services.

78 :A Person:2006/10/14(土) 04:56:41
>>77
Shhh... Not in front of everybody.

79 :hyf270:2006/10/14(土) 06:19:34
>>67
Short of coming to america, there's not many good ways to meet american women.
Although I despise it, I honestly have to recommend the site ttp://www.myspace.com
for meeting people. It's very popular, although you'll meet a lot of idiots there.

If you do come to or live in America, the typical places to meet women are
at bars and clubs, at malls, or through dating services mentioned above.
The best way to meet women in general is just to live here for awhile, talk to
people you see in places near you, join clubs for your interests.
In general, the more friends you have, the easier it is to meet people.

>>65
Well americans are already stupid enough as is, and big breasted women tend
to be even dumber than usual! So I don't make a big deal of it.
Not to mention nowadays most people with big boobs are fake anyway.

I actually like small/flat chest myself. If they're too big, they make me uncomfortable!


80 :hyf270:2006/10/14(土) 06:20:23
>>67
oh, if you want to talk to women, you could try an english IRC server.
But many people on IRC are men :/ so it is hard.

81 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/14(土) 06:40:00
>>80
Half the people on Earth are men!

82 :hyf270:2006/10/14(土) 06:44:34
>>81
So are half the women on the internet!


2ch, I made this image: http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hyf270nj9.png

Do you like it?

83 :A Person:2006/10/14(土) 08:01:26
>>82
'Tis interesting. It's artsy.

I can't believe I missed a question about big boobs.

84 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/14(土) 10:48:57
please teach me what kind of "face marks" you use in us.
(^o^) (^_^;)

85 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/14(土) 11:01:06
"I will." sounds like "a i u e o".

86 :A Person:2006/10/14(土) 14:18:12
>>84
We're rather boring, we don't have that many "face marks" that we use.
Since I'm limited to knowing a little, I'll let someone else show you.

>>85
In a way it does. It depends on the type of sound of the vowel that you
use though.

87 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/14(土) 15:05:22
>>84
Here's one I learned in an online game.

8==========>

88 :hyf270:2006/10/14(土) 19:33:47
>>84
Well, japanese smilies are becoming more popular. But basic american smilies:

:) :-) :D =) is like (^_^)
:P :-P =P is like (^u^) (sticking out the tongue, joking)
:( =( :-( is like (T_T) (crying)
:| is like (-_-) or (_ _)

We don't have much art like your SJIS/ASCII! If you want to see american faces,
go to 4-ch.net and click the "AA Bar" on the left. They're mostly made by
americans, but they're based off Japanese designs.

89 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/14(土) 21:16:00
>>88
Thank you so much for teaching!
I'll try to go to the site called 4-ch.net.

90 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/15(日) 00:26:02
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91 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/15(日) 01:30:35
>>61-62
Thank you for your detailed description about summer camp and sharing
your personal experiences. Looks like there are many kinds of summer
camps. I can't belive they let a kid seated in the cocpit and fly a plane if I'm
not misunderstanding what you wrote.

We Japanese all know NASA. Some Japanese have been on board a space
shuttle and done some mission in space. But Even far bofore that,
it is known by all Japanese because they sent an Apolo to the moon
and all.

The summer camp run by NASA sounds like a lot of fun. You mean you
have participated in the camp with your mom. I am in my thiries and have
no chance to sign up for a summer camp but If I had a chance, I would want
to participate in a baseball summer camp if there's a camp where
you practice baseball.

FYI, I think Japanese people who post long English messages here and other threads
are kind of old. Because it takes many years of studying to reach the
level where you can write English. I bet even university students
cann't write long English writing. They may be good at reading and
grammar but writing or speaking to express ideas in their minds is
another story and needs years of study.

>>82
It's an abstract image. It's like you drop a paint in the water and stir
it. I don't know how you made it but it's beautiful.
What kind of software do you need to make an image like this.
Photoshop? I am ignorant.

>>87
That looks like a penis. hehe

92 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/15(日) 03:44:03
>>91
:61-62
Don't get upset! There are actually summer camps for adults now,
although you have to take vacation time for it. Also, some summer camps
(like Space Camp) let you go in pairs. I did a Parent and Child course,
so there were a lot of dads and their sons, a grandpa and his grandaughter,
my mom and myself (male), even some moms and daughters

My two best japanese friends are in university. They play ffxi. Well
one quit so he could draw manga, but I still talk to him sometimes. The
one in university has better english, but he studies medicine. I like to talk
to them, and help them with their english, I find it fun to figure out what
things mean together!

:82
Yes, it was Photoshop ^^
You make colors in photoshop, move them around with liquify tool, then play
with the settings until it looks neat! I put a place where you can find more
of my art in my e-mail field

:87
That's what it's meant to be -.-;



93 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/15(日) 09:52:51
>>92
Would you please put ">>" before numbers, like >>61-62, >>82 or >>87?

94 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/15(日) 11:28:52
>>84
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticon

95 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/15(日) 13:10:29
>>92
I guess you are hyf270.
Thank you for the additional info.
Summer camps are richer in variety than I thought.
I thought they were organised just for kids.

I watched your photoshop work on the website you showed.
Seems like you can do various things by using the app.
Keep up the good work.

96 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/15(日) 14:57:43
>>58
The person who made that is not Japanese. Look at http://www.keikos-homepage.jp/.
The Japanese is horrible.

97 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/15(日) 17:41:56
>>96
ha ha ha ha!!!
That is terrible Japanese language!!:which is like my English.
The all word order is messed up!
Is the person who made that Korean or Chinese?

98 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/15(日) 18:41:29
>>96
Yeah, the Japanese writing is far from natural.
Isn't it translated by a translation software?
I wonder who made this website in the first place.
I am not good enough to judge her English is perfect like the English
of a native English speaker but if so, this is a trap made by a native
English speaker.

In any way, this is a trap made for white American.

99 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/15(日) 19:25:25
Yea, that website must be a trap for white.
And the photos are maybe fake.

100 :hyf270:2006/10/15(日) 20:01:18
Her english isn't very good. It's not very bad, but it's not good, but they could be playing stupid

>>95 yes, thank you! ^^
>>93 i'm referring to the above person's reply to those posts, not those posts.








101 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/16(月) 02:38:51
Her English definitely has mistakes that a native speaker wouldn't make...

102 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/16(月) 09:23:14
Seems like she'll need to learn 'Japanese'.

103 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/16(月) 20:39:03
i want to send mail to her.
but i am not good at english.
please someone try to send mail.

104 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/16(月) 21:08:28
I tried to send mail
But daemon returned.
If this woman aims to trap white American, why does she list useless mail address on her homepage?


105 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/16(月) 21:39:34
be careful.
there is no guarantee that she is woman.
i mean maybe the photos are fake.

106 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/16(月) 23:42:36
>>104
Maybe she/he got bored fishing white American.
As for the website, she abondoned it but let it still on the web.

107 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/17(火) 01:48:35
>Maybe she/he got bored fishing white American.

but she renewed her site @06.10.15


108 :Cherry of Eng:2006/10/17(火) 03:25:35
Big deal!Sex is a pieace of cake for adult.

Anyway,Why u American get along with Japanease?It's boring and a lot of truble,isn't it?

Besides women of America is the gratest of the world. So u had better get back your country.

109 :hyf270:2006/10/17(火) 04:36:52
haha, well some of us have to talk to Japanese, or you'd all hate us!

Personally, I find your country very interesting.. plus I like your manga and games >.>

I like the way the language sounds too... oh, and american women aren't that great

110 :k-tan ◆teb9WQfPoU :2006/10/17(火) 04:47:17
>>88
> :( =( :-( is like (T_T) (crying)
Um.. Not quite..

;( or :´-( is like (;_;) or (T_T) (crying)
:( =( :-( are merely frowns, what someone does when unhappy or sad.
;) or ;-) is like (^_~) (winking)
;D ;-D is a delighted grin or laughter... Hmm.. What else...
Ah well. ^-^

111 :A Person:2006/10/17(火) 05:33:15
>>108
I should take some pictures of the women in my hometown. After that,
you'd probably want to change your mind.

112 :Emperor of America:2006/10/17(火) 07:46:35
In truth, the United States in, on the surface, a peaceful world
driven by nothing more than pleasure and joy where the people are
fair-skinned with blonde hair and golden eyes with child-like
innocence. However, underneath the feet of these wonderful people
is a vast system of machinery and factories run by squat, dwarf-like
people with amazing intelligence and dark features. They ensure
the surface people never know any discomfort or pain as long as the
proper price is paid.

America is run by Morlocks!

113 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/17(火) 09:11:30
>>109
You're a nerd in any country.

114 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/17(火) 09:29:42
>>113
LOL I think that most people who come to this 2ch are NEETs and nerds.
What do you think?

115 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/17(火) 09:45:15
I'm not a nerd but a neet.

116 :hyf270:2006/10/17(火) 09:55:01
>>113-114
I agree with all of this.

Actually, I wrote that really quickly in PC class,
before anyone had a chance to ask me what a Ketsuge Burger was,
so that's not how I usually talk so much.


>>112
As an American Citizen, it's my legal obligation to say this man is lying.
I wish he were ;_; As one of the dark haired blackeyed cursed ones,
I am doomed to a live of suffering and hard labor... At least the food is fattening!

I think it is very odd that my school blocks harmless game sites,
but still lets me log on to chs and chans; which usually have porn
or at least bad language.







117 :A Person:2006/10/17(火) 10:14:50
I am a nerd.

>>116
My high school that I went to actually did a good job of blocking porn sites
and anything dealing with half naked women. But, the connection sucked even though
they had optical wiring throughout the school.

118 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/17(火) 15:37:18
>>117
How do u feel about doy?

It's a question as whether u are American or not.

119 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/17(火) 21:42:40
>>118
What's doy? Or is it D.O.Y.?

Could DOY mean Drunk Over Yuengling? Deemed Offensively Yellow?
Damned Overlord Yak? Dangerous Ophidian You? Dumped by Ogura Yuko?

120 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/17(火) 21:44:43
規制の土井の事だろ

121 :A Person:2006/10/17(火) 22:08:23
>>118
I'm sort of confused over your question. What is doy?

122 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/17(火) 22:30:44
>>1
hey, how u doin?
Im dying to know the tips to speak english well.
So far, what Ive found is
*it sounds more like it when you make your voice tone lower
*you absolutely have to make clear accent (I never mind about the second accent for now)
*speakin english involves crazy movements of tongue and you have to open your mouth wide

So, I wanna ask whether you do exactly the opposite when u tryin to speak Japanese.
If that's the case, these tips may be actually useful, u know.
Especially about mouth and tongue movement, I find Im opening my mouth for vowels or R sound,
and more like closing or movin my tongue up and down for consonants. Am I wrong?
R sound appears really a key factor for me just becasue I feel like Americans making R sound
all the time.

123 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/17(火) 23:49:33
Doy is fool man as nerb.

124 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/18(水) 00:08:36
By the way, Yuengling is the best beer ever in the world.
It's from around Scranton, PA, right?
In Pennsylvania, you can order it just saying "gimme a lagar."

125 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/18(水) 01:07:50
>>116
What do you learn at your PC classes?
Do they teach you how to type for beginners from scratch?

Would you tell me what you learn?
Microsft Office software is taught in class?
What kind of software do you learn? Progamming, too maybe?


126 :A Person:2006/10/18(水) 01:41:49
Since I am still confused over the concept of Doy, then I can't really
answer that question.

127 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/18(水) 02:28:23
Doy is used by friends which is famous American movie.

How come u don't know this word?I guess Doy isn't difficult word.

128 :或る醫學生 ◆jv9PhcfTmc :2006/10/18(水) 02:30:25
Dead On Yarrival

129 :A Person:2006/10/18(水) 03:29:09
And what movie is this. I've never heard of Doy before. Really and
honestly.

130 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/18(水) 04:57:18
I'm a super nerd.
And I've never heard of "Doy".

>>122
For English, you need to pronounce your consonants well. The vowels are
important, too, but the consonants are essential. As for Japanese - I
have a lot of problems with both pronouncing the vowels correctly and
getting the length of the syllables correct (e.g. douzo vs dozo).

131 :hyf270:2006/10/18(水) 06:42:43
Hello Again! I tried to post at school 2hrs ago, but network proxy error :(

>>128 Is this what you mean? That is Dead On Arrival; DOA.

Other than that, Doy... i've only heard that used as an interjection on TV shows
Like "Duh!"?

>>125
Yes. Usually younger kids take typing classes, middle kids (where I am)
take office programs, and then you start programming (if you like PCs)

Personally, I skipped the typing and office courses (since they're way too easy)
now I take HTML class, but we're already done learning, and It's too simple.
I usually finish my assignments 30-40minutes before class ends

I learned how to make tables last week, and I picked right up
but the other kids still don't get it. I guess it's because I spend
so much time on BBS and Wiki etc. that it just comes naturally to me

132 :hyf270:2006/10/18(水) 06:43:17
The teacher is stupid though.. she uses old HTML. She makes us capatalize
(LIKE CAPS LOCK KEY, BIG LETTERS YA?) all the tags, and use < br> instead of < br/>
(spaces added since I don't know if it will mess with the post)

I am going to be homeschooled soon though! I just have to prove to my mom
I can by this weekend, and she will take me out! Hurray!


In school today, I checked out a japanese book. It explains the kanji
through pictures! So it's easy to remember. I already understand 名 now
from it! I still need to learn hiragana and katakana...

Would it be wrong to scan all the pages to a CD? >.> I don't know if
I can find the book, and the library probably won't sell it...
And I don't want to just steal it..

>>122
I'm sorry, I can't really answer this right now (/.\;)

133 :hyf270:2006/10/18(水) 06:56:46
I just installed 日本語IME again.

丘 Fun Faces
(V▽V)ノ

134 :A Person:2006/10/18(水) 07:51:37
>>132
I got a manga that teaches kanji through pictures. It's pretty cool.
I didn't really get to look through it extensively though... Maybe I
should bring it here to school.

135 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/18(水) 09:48:33
>>131
You seem to have skills on PC.
Since you know HTML, you can make a website from scratch, without
help of Homepage builder and all, right.

>>132
Why don't you try Amazon? They serve your niche demand on books.

136 :hyf270:2006/10/18(水) 10:30:37
>>135
Yeah, i'm pretty good with PCs.
My mom wants me to make a webpage for her business... I don't know
why though, she's much better than I am. She's been doing it for
a long time now of course.

I could try amazon, but I don't like ordering stuff online very much.

137 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/18(水) 10:58:50
What do you mean by explain kanji through pictures?

Surely 名 is 夕 (evening) attached to 口 (mouth). Does it explain things like that?

138 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/18(水) 11:40:45
How do you think his pronunciation ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VezP6yqhs9k


139 :Emperor of America:2006/10/18(水) 20:42:48
As the American population rises out of control, drastic steps have
been taken to ensure there is enough food for everyone. While
synthetic foodstuffs Soylent Red and Soylent Yellow have eased
rampant hunger, it has not solved it. However, I am proud to
announce that the newly developed and successfully synthesized
Soylent Green has not only doubled available foodstuff for the
population, it promises a new age of plenty. The secret behind the
production of Soylent Green is currently a trade secret and
aggressively guarded by the Soylent Corporation. The only clue is
that it is derived from plankton.

140 :hyf270:2006/10/18(水) 21:27:05
>>137
it says:
“evening 夕 combined with mouth 口,
here indicating an open mouth calling out a name, gave the Chinese
the character for NAME 名。It was developed from the practice
of the ancient chinese sentries who at night had
to hear the name of the approaching citizen called out before
he would pass him. It is pronounced NA when used by itself, and MEI
in compounds. A 名人, name-person, is one who has a name, a famous person
A 名画 name-picture, is a famous picture. On most application blanks,
you write your name on the line marked 名NA。”

>>138
It's not too bad, but he needs to learn how to
not add vowels on the end of words, and he should also slow down his words
Most english people don't speak very fast, so when people do, it's
usually seen as either being excited/anxious, or a dead giveaway of an accent



141 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/18(水) 21:46:19
>>138
mankaindo!
cerebureito!
amerikan horidei!
guddo mooninngu!

142 :A Person:2006/10/18(水) 22:02:08
>>135
I know that Amazon has tons of books I can buy, but the question is not
where I can find them, but if I can afford to buy them.

143 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/18(水) 22:06:16
>>138
His pronunciation was keeping me laughing. I got a biggest fan of him.
But my pronunciation is similar to him...orz

144 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/18(水) 22:36:30
i assumed

>>hyf270
you are 15 years old boy.
and live in America
aren't you?
>>A person
you are 24-27 years old man
and live in japan
aren't you?



145 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/18(水) 22:45:52
Relationship of love and marriage.
evolution(from dictionary) :
the way in which living things change and develop over millions of years, or a gradual process
of change and development
Evolution : It is spontaneous attractive force between gene of oneself and gene of another.
That is, A gene is prefered by other gene. For prediction of evolutions, It will be natural that
spontaneousness is important to evolve for better or worse. Artificial stratagem of gene's
natural movement will tend to negative motion, despite prediction of evolutions tend to positive
motion. That is, We never deprive evolutions of nature. (by X-man)


146 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/18(水) 23:41:58
>>138
I love it!!!!
He is wonderful!!!!
lol

147 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/18(水) 23:48:15
>>142
You can buy a second-hand book at Amazaon.
If you are going to buy a title that's not pupular at all, chances are
there are no second-hand book of it in stock available, though.

148 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 00:44:01
I read this blog style journal written by an American living in
Japan everyday.

In October 18th entry I happened to find the topic about the girl
who loves caucasion American aged under 35.
http://japundit.com/archives/2006/10/18/3864/#comments

According to the 7th comment to the blog entry, she is Asian American.
I followed the link and found out that she is Chinese American.
It's bothering to me to search for info about why she made such a website
or she is the victim whose photos are used without her permission by
somebody.

If you are intersted, it might be possible to find a truth about the
site designed to hook a white American.


149 :A Person:2006/10/19(木) 02:26:49
>>144
Actually, I live in the U.S. and I'm 18, almost 19 years of age.

>>147
It's not that, I just don't have money. I'm in college and I already
spent all of my money on these books for this semester and save some
for next semester.

150 :hyf270:2006/10/19(木) 06:39:02
>>144

Yes

151 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/19(木) 10:20:23
>>138
He needs to not voice so many of the vowels. Otherwise, not bad.

152 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 10:39:16
i am too surrprized to know
hyf270 is 15 and Person is 18 years old.
you two too young to come here


153 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 10:39:30
>>151
What's the difference between "He needs to not voice.... " and "He needs not to voice...."?

154 :A Person:2006/10/19(木) 10:45:18
>>152
Well, I'm not going to be able to go until I can catch up with my
courses in college and when I can afford it. That time most likely won't be until
after I graduate.

155 :hyf270:2006/10/19(木) 11:13:07
>>153
No real difference, technically both are incorrect
(or at least sound awkward to a native english speaker),
but the first one is more correct.

156 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 12:15:27
Neither is incorrect, hyf. Anyway, they both have the same meaning.

157 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 12:15:34
>>155
Thanks.

158 :Another Person:2006/10/19(木) 13:13:19
I'm another American you can ask questions to! :)

I know little-to-none Japanese (I know kana, but that's hardly enough to get by with anything). I'm female, 17, and live in the southeast US.

>>148 More than likely, it's just someone using her photos. Someone mentioned a couple days ago while discussing it that it two of the pictures seemed to be at two different places (different apartments). I didn't really understand that though.

If it is a joke, it's honestly kind of funny.

159 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 14:42:21
hello, to whoever americans

could you please tell me how to pronounce this? -> mylord


160 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 14:57:38
> I'm female, 17
to this chaostic thread,
the venus arrived!!


anyway
According to >>148 and Sylvain Bouchard (http://www.sylvainbouchard.com/wpblog/)
we know this site is the fake.
but what does this website's master aim?
Does he wants to hurt her reputation or hook someone?
but mailaddress is useless.
I gradually wants to meet him

161 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 16:08:46
>>159
"Mylord" isn't a word.
Do you mean "milord"? It's pronounced "me lord".
You might also mean "my lord", which is just "my", then "lord".

162 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 16:35:51
>>161
sorry, that's the name of the department store in Japan.
actually I got confused like you did.
i was wondering how americans first pronouce this store name.
so you will read as milord? what does milord mean?
i couldn't find that from dictionary.

thanks anyway.


163 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 16:57:14
ご主人様って呼ばれたかっただけです

164 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 17:15:50
>>162
"Milord" is a term of address for a lord. For example, a knight
might respond to a command from his lord with "Yes, milord."

165 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 17:22:04
>>158
やらないか?

166 :Another Person:2006/10/19(木) 18:04:26
>>165
... :(

>>162
I looked up "Mylord" and wow! That's a huge depeartment store building. I don't think I've ever been in a building that large. Then again, that could be from having always lived in small places. :)
As for pronunciation, I would go with >>161, and say it's probably pronounced as "My Lord"


167 :162:2006/10/19(木) 18:14:14
thanks 164, thanks another person.



168 :165:2006/10/19(木) 19:04:44
>>166
CAN YOU UNDERSTAND JAPANESE ???

169 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 19:12:39
17歳のアメリカの少女が2chのネタを知ってるとはこれいかに?

170 :162:2006/10/19(木) 19:17:16
when i lived in america, that was when i was 19 or 20,
american friends gave me a nick name and that was "chai".

now in japan, i tell that story to my foreign friends who are
australian, african, french and also american, they are like
refuse to call me "chai". they say.. you don't look like "chai".
what does that supposed to mean? i couldn't ask them.
do "chai" sounds young girld nick name?


171 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 19:20:00
chai is chinese?

172 :162:2006/10/19(木) 19:21:24
no, i'm not chinese. i'm japanese. it was from my name chiharu

173 :Another Person:2006/10/19(木) 21:23:54
>>168
Only kana. It said "yaranaika" which is that joke about the guy with the jumpsuit, isn't it?

>>170
Chai sounds like what I buy to drink when I go to Panera!

I think it sounds kind of cute, but some people don't like to call another person by a nickname they introduced themselves.

174 :hyf270:2006/10/19(木) 21:57:33
>>156
Yes it is. Technically it should be pronounce, or say, not voice.



175 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 22:10:02
Who is the guy with the jumpsuit?
A skydiver?

176 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 22:26:48
>>158
I can't help but wondering how you get to know 2 channel in the first place.
When you say, south east US, is it a egion where Virginia, South Dacoda
lie? Tennessee can be included?

Do you guys, native speakers here call yourselves Otaku?

177 :A Person:2006/10/19(木) 22:46:25
>>From what ever number I left off.
I am so confused. I leave for the night to sleep and all this happened.
Now I have to be careful between my posts and Another Person's posts.

>>176
Actually, that would be Virginia, North and South Carolina, Georgia, etc.
I guess you could call me an Otaku. It sort of holds a different meaning
over here though.

178 :165:2006/10/19(木) 23:07:41
>>173
What is jumpsuit ???
やらないか? means "Let's have a sex"

179 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/19(木) 23:14:04
>>173
See the "Yaru" in the site below.

List of Japanese sex terms - Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_sex_terms


180 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 00:59:37
>>177
Oh, I meant to say South Carolina, not South Dacoda.
Seems like my guess in 176 pretty good.

I don't meant to dwell on this but If I remember correctly, Georgia
is typical Deep South, not south east. A Person lives in Ohio, right?
America is a huge country with various regional culture from what I know.

From the perspective of people living in far away from the Deep South,
do you feel Deep South is kind of like a different country?

181 :A Person:2006/10/20(金) 01:40:41
>>180
Yeah, regional culture in the U.S. is pretty mixed. And you're correct, I
live in Ohio. But, it's pretty standard per region.

182 ::2006/10/20(金) 02:23:00
How did A person find 2ch ?

183 :A Person:2006/10/20(金) 02:39:09
>>182
Through a website. I forgot what it was, but I was Google searching
for Japanese things and a came across a link to here. Plus I read
about 2ch on another board before that.

184 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 02:40:55
do you know the word "creptic"? it's not "critic". it sounded like
"creptic". or do you know any similar word?

185 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 03:00:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JNJEjB3LTI

Narrator: Liz just destroyed an ant hill and they are all piling up trying..
Liz: (interrupting) Guess what they are saying
Narrator: they are trying to rebuild their fucking civilization
Liz: Ahh it's Lizzy Lizzy
Narrator: it's a bird, it's a plane
Liz: no ??????????


I cant catch what Liz says in the last
Please tell me

186 :A Person:2006/10/20(金) 03:07:07
>>184
Do you mean "cryptic" as in "coded" or "mysterious message"?

187 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 03:22:52
ok now i know.
he said cryptic message.
so he meant by misterious message.

cryptic like encryption.
so encryption (encrypt) generally for a computer?
for ordinarly conversation, do you crypt?


188 :187:2006/10/20(金) 03:23:59
sorry,
>for ordinarly conversation, do you crypt?

i mean
for ordinarly conversation, do you use the word "crypt"?


189 :A Person:2006/10/20(金) 03:29:34
>>187-188
Crypt has a different meaning entirely. Crypt is like a tomb.
http://www.dictionary.com should help you.

In ordinary conversation "cryptic" would be use in the context
that someone was saying something to you, but it just seemed vague
or empty in immediate meaning. Then you would say or think,
"He's saying some cryptic things today..."

There are many more uses that are explained at the link I gave.

190 :187:2006/10/20(金) 03:35:27
>>189
thanks.
i will try to look up english -> english like dictionary.com.
however, sometimes i need direct translation to japanese and
i've been using alc.co.jp. how do you think about this web?

191 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 03:37:40
>>174
Oh, I thought you meant the grammar was wrong, not word choice.
I didn't look at the context the fragment was used in.
You're correct that it would be better to say "pronounce" rather
than "voice". To voice something means that you vibrate your vocal
cords when you pronounce it. Rather than not voice the vowels, they
shouldn't pronounce them at all.

>>188
A crypt is a burial place. It is not a common word. The only time I've
ever really heard it used was in the title of a former TV series called
"Tales from the Crypt" (a horror series).

192 :A Person:2006/10/20(金) 03:42:40
>>189
If you use Firefox for your web browser, you can get a plugin called
rikaichan plus its dicitonaries where you can just click on it and
take it to the kana and translate it to english one my one.

It's hard for me to look through that site because I'm so limited
in Japanese.

193 :hyf270:2006/10/20(金) 07:35:36
>>185
"it's just ? ? lizzy!" Dizzy, maybe?

>>192
I have to recommend firefox plugins, wonderful wonderful things.



194 :Anon:2006/10/20(金) 07:42:40
Hey, I'm American too. :)
I agree with the Firefox plugins... They make reading so much easier... >.<

195 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/20(金) 07:49:29
>>191
Actually, it's possible to have unvoiced vowels; see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vowels#Phonation . I figured that devoicing
the extra vowels would be easier for him than not pronouncing them at all.

>>173
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumpsuit - the English wikipedia has
an awful lot of articles, on nearly everything.

>>180
Yes, in some ways the Deep South is very much like another country.
America's much bigger and much more varied than one might expect.
(I've lived in Chicago, Boston, Texas, Detroit, and San Francisco, so
I have first-hand experience with this.)

196 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 10:31:10
>>195 I live in the very deep south.

I've only ever really lived in the south, though I recently moved to here a few weeks ago. It's much different even from other places in the south that I've ever lived in.

You've really only lived in large cities, right? Until I moved here, I'd never lived in a city larger than about 15,000 people!

197 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 10:36:46
>>180
I've heard Peoria, Illinois represnts average America.

>>195
Oh. You've had colorful experiences.
Thank you for your response.

198 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 10:47:27
>>197
There is no real "average" America. There are regional "averages" but there's
no real way you can say something is just "average America." More than that, dfferent
social classes have different experiences, and each place has different levels of classes.

Deep South IS like another country, but every region (and in some cases, states!) are different from eachother.

199 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 11:01:43
>>198
Thank your for your post.

What I meant in >>197 is, there's a phrase like
"Does it play in Peoria?"

200 :A Person:2006/10/20(金) 12:02:58
About my community, I live in a mixed area. We have people from
almost all the regions here in South-Western Ohio. Many companies
transfer people here, plus if helps that P&G is based here in Ohio.

201 :185:2006/10/20(金) 13:13:22
>>193
maybe??
even american cant catch what she says?
why??
japanese can catch anything what they say in japanese

202 :hyf270:2006/10/20(金) 13:42:48
>>201
Like I said earlier, americans aren't used to hearing people talk fast.
Listening to it again, it sounds like "*Itsy Lizzy!" Or "*Izzie Lizzy!"
She might be saying Dizzy Lizzy, Dizzy Miss Lizzie is the name of an
old Beatles song.

She's also pretty excited, which makes her voice harder to understand.
Not catching what people say is actually pretty common in america,
especially in commercials, where people tend to talk faster than normal
Not being able to understand at all after a few hearings is less common,
but it still happens.

Sometimes people say words so quickly or so oddly that it's hard to tell.
In that video, apart from the fact that she was speaking quickly,
she didn't say the vowel in the second to last word very loudly,
and without that it's very hard to tell what it means.

Like if I said "mOUSE", and I said the "S"
so it sounded more like a "SH"
it would be hard to know if I said House, Mouse, Couch, Owch,
etc.

Not the best example, but I hope it helps you understand.





203 :185:2006/10/20(金) 15:04:44
>>202
OK. Thank you for your answer.

204 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 17:07:07
>>202
This is true! My accent is Greater American (Midwest, I guess? Though I grew up in the South), and many people here tell me I talk too fast. Then again, people talk really slowly here.

(Plus people tend to slur words together; it's one of my bad habits).

205 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 21:51:08
Thanks for ur answer, buddy >>130

Hey, I heard American girls shave their pubic hair.
The same goes for Asian descended amrerican girls, too?
I very much prefer ones without pubic hair, of course,
but there are some different agendas depending on your cultural background, right?
Japanese girls shave all the body hair except pubic hair, and Chinese girls
(sometimes even pretty ones) dont care about their underarm getting weigh too hairy.

206 :Another Person:2006/10/20(金) 21:55:53
>>205

Personally, I do. I just prefer it for several reasons (and guys tend to prefer it)
I don't shave ALL of my body hair. I do shave there, and on my legs (and underarms), but I don't shave say, my arms.
Though I do have kind of hairy arms. Comes from being a quarter Italian!

207 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 22:01:37
>>206
I'm not 205 but let me ask you a question.

You said you saved your pubic hair. Do you save it all of your pubic hair
or you save it like a heart shape?

When was the first time you shaved your pubic hair?

208 :Sarah:2006/10/20(金) 22:10:09
>>207
All of it. It feels uncomfortable not to.

When I was 14.

209 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 22:18:40
>>208
Thanks for your response.

Cat's out of the bag. Another Person is Sarah as I guessed.

I am a pervert in another thread who is going to take a night walk
from now.




210 :Sarah:2006/10/20(金) 22:20:07
Yes, I accidently forgot to switch names when I posted here!

Have fun taking a walk! I wish I could go for one, but I'm too tired.

211 :A Person:2006/10/20(金) 23:10:43
I really have no preference on pubic hairs on women. Now, armpit and leg hairs,
that's a different story.

212 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/20(金) 23:14:30
>>185
"No, it's just Lizzy Lizzy!" is my interpretation.
(I have a terrible time understanding spoken English sometimes, unless
I listen to something repeatedly - and even then I get it wrong
sometimes. That said, the speaker in that video has a weird accent.)

>>197
Peoria is about two hours south of Chicago, where I grew up; I've been
there two or three times. I didn't like it at all - it was boring,
really stinky (fermenting soybeans, I think), and was a generic small
city. Nothing remarkable about it at all - which is why it passes for
average, I guess.

>>201
You can understand Hokkaidou-ben without any problems?

213 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 23:39:13
japan sucks more than americans think
we must not express real myself
we must pretend
we must care about other eyes
we must not stand out in front of others

214 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 23:39:37
>>206
I see. So, what about guys?
guys are supposed to shave it?
I mean, girls would like it better?

215 :Sarah:2006/10/20(金) 23:41:09
>>213
I have never really wanted to move to Japan, and those are reasons why.
It doesn't seem like a good way to live :(

>>214
Guys should be trimmed. Not a bush, but not bald either. (Plus when
it's trimmed, it looks bigger!)

216 :197:2006/10/20(金) 23:48:53
>>212
Thanks for your post.
That's a possibility.


217 :213:2006/10/20(金) 23:50:23
>>215
I wanna run away from japan

218 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/20(金) 23:51:30
>>217
Then run away! Study in the states, study in England, study anywhere.



219 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/20(金) 23:54:23
>>215
Do u like bigger dick?

220 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/20(金) 23:56:46
>>219
Ability to use it is more important than size.

221 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 00:00:44
日本:成金の子供。攻撃的ではないのでみんなのいいカモ。
    隣の家の子にしつこく言いがかりをつけられている。
    先代の頃は今ほど裕福ではなく、躾は厳しく気概があった。
    ここ最近はアメリカ君の舎弟。

韓国:日本君の隣に住んでいる。変にプライドが高く粘着質な性格。
    突然ファビョり、言いがかりをつけてくる。いつまでも昔の事を
    恨んでいる。捏造が得意。
中国:同じく日本君の近所に住む子。日本君に恵んでもらった金や
    技術を元に最近は羽振りが良さげ。自分に都合のいい
    事しか言わないし教えない。
アメリカ:近所のガキ大将でわがまま。家族内での貧富の差が
      激しい。ケンカ好きで強い。口癖は「自由」。
イギリス:日本に批判的な隣町の家の子。かつては他の家の子を
      荒らしてまわり制圧し裕福だったが、今は凋落。
      旧家である事が誇りで嫌みったらしい。この家の飯は
      非常に不味いらしい。
フランス:この家の飯は上手いらしいが、プライドが高く協調性は
      ない。中国君とあやしげな取引もしてる様子。
ドイツ:先代の所業について今でも責められている。
     さんざんフランス君・イギリス君・アメリカ君に搾り取られた。
     生真面目な性格でゴミの出し方にうるさい。
イタリア:今は没落しているが大昔から続く名門 家にはかつての名残が一杯
      お調子者で女好きのマザコン。良く裏切るが何故かそれほど恨まれない得な性格
      勉強は駄目だがクラブ活動では大活躍

222 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 00:02:11
How many americans are here ??


223 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/21(土) 00:04:01
>>213
On the other hand, you're allowed to express yourself in other ways
much more freely than elsewhere; Japan is widely renowned for coming
up with weird artistic stuff that noplace else has.

I think that the "parasite singles" and freeters are probably a
good thing; in my very humble opinion, Japan's tatemae and honne
have gotten too far apart, and those two groups are bringing them
back together.

>>217
Yes! Go abroad! Travel! Become NEET if you feel like it. Travel's
great for seeing the world and finding out what you really value.

224 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 00:06:06
>>222
A few. I'm one.

>>223
Indeed! If you don't feel comfortable where you are, try somewhere else.
If you like it, maybe that's where you belong.

225 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 00:15:58
>>221
Were you one of the people protesting on August 15?

226 :或る醫學生 ◆jv9PhcfTmc :2006/10/21(土) 00:17:39
How did you Americans find this huge board system called 2chan?

227 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 00:19:59
>>226
Mostly because of the US/English equivilent of 2ch.
Also, just from knowing about internet culture as a whole.

228 :或る醫學生 ◆jv9PhcfTmc :2006/10/21(土) 00:24:53
>>227
Thanks for the answer.
Does "the equivalent of 2ch" really exist in the US or other
parts of the world?
Could you name one?
As far as I know, there is no 2channel type system outside Japan.

229 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 00:27:22
>>228
4chan.org is the american equivilent of 2ch/futaba (that's the term, yes?)
If I recall, Japanese IPs are blocked (due to invasions from people from here when it first opened)

There are many 2ch type systems outside of Japanese ones :) I can name a few.
There are a HUGE amount of imageboards.

Mostly the people who go on them are people who admire Japan/anime/art work from Japan/Japanese Women
Do you know the term "Japanophile?"

I guess since I'm here, I could easily be classified as one, but I have no intentions of ever going to Japan.

230 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 00:31:13
sarah,
you cant be an american. your english is far from perfect.

231 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 00:33:59
>>230
I am American; I'm not very good at writing though :)
I guess I can't really PROVE that I'm American. It's currently 10:34am in Montgomery
Alabama; the sun is shining, but I haven't been outside yet, so I can't
tell you the temperature.

But English is the only language that I speak. What do you want me to say? Anhyong haseyo?

232 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 00:35:09
>>223
I totally disagree with you on your first paragraph.
I m only guessin, but you are talking about some anime and game stuffs right?
What about other things goin on in Japan, they are almost all mimicking of America.
I adimit that there are some creativity in japanese culture, but considering number
of population and country's wealthiness, we should do much better.
Cuz we can have lots of oppotunities.
I'm saying there are obviously cultural constraint to Japanese people's creativity,
and Japanese creativity is definitely poor. They are so afraid to make mistakes by
expressing their thought, feeling, or values. And, if you express too much of your
original thoughts, people would say it is "kimoi".

233 :或る醫學生 ◆jv9PhcfTmc :2006/10/21(土) 00:40:04
>>229
Thanks again for your answer, Sarah!
Is the adminstrator of 4chan an American?
I think the name 4 channel must be grammatically wrong.
Isn't it unacceptable to Americans?

234 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 00:40:17
>215
<I have never really wanted to move to Japan, and those are reasons why.
It doesn't seem like a good way to live :(

you've forgot "the" between "are" and " reasons".
do americans make a misstake like this?
and you meant " good place to live" in that last paragraph?


235 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 00:41:10
>>222
I'm one of the other Americans. There's nothing else to say, I'll
leave it at that.

236 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 00:42:08
Are you a great fan of Japanese cartoon or something, Sarah?

You haven't been outside... You've surely had breakfast, haven't you?

237 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 00:42:55
>>233
Americans have problems with grammar anyhow. Most americans don't know about 4chan.
It's mostly something only known to those who are into the internet/Japanese things. The average person might know what anime is, but certainly not 4chan.
Plus many people don't even know that the "chan" in it stands for "channel" and not "-chan"
It's kind of hard to explain it.

The admin is an American.

238 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 00:44:13
NEET is a popular topic in japan
NEET is very increasing.
the reason they become NEET is because they cant communicate with others
they have no friends or few
they are afraid of talking with others
anthrophobia is folk disease in japan
so they wont go into society
this is because japanese care about other eyes too much

239 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 00:46:03
>>237
I've heard of 4chan, but I've never made an effort to visit it.
I guess because I expect the typical obnoxious people that post
in "l337" talk.

240 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 00:47:00
>>236
Yes, I've had breakfast. I guess I'm kind of a shut-in. It's a long story.
I like some anime, but I'm not a fanatic. I did like Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu though!

>>234
No, "reasons why" is not the same as "the reasons why." "Reasons why" is basically the same as saying "some reasons why."
I meant "way," not "place." Place would work too, but "way" says it differently. How do I explain it?

I've seen much worse mistakes from other Americans. Many people my age don't even type out "you" and use "u" instead, or "r" for "are"/"our." It's sad.



241 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 00:47:42
>>231
I'm kind of dissapointed.

Girls from the South are called southern bell or something and
they are considered conservative.

You are not, are you, not hesitating tallking about stimulating your
clit and all. Although I am the one who asked you that kind of question. :p

I'm back from a night patrol.

242 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 00:48:27
>>239
4chan is mostly known for /b/, which is just where many shock/gross photos are too.
If you're going to go to any of the English *chans, iichan/wakachan is the way to go. I wish the Range Murata board were back up.

243 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 00:50:21
>>241
Haha, there are't that many actual "conservative" girls left in the US anymore. :p
The only "conservative" girls are (usually) stuck-up Christian girls.

"Southern Belles" are only something I've heard about existing a hundred years ago.

244 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 00:50:46
>>239
What does "l337" talk mean, I wonder?

245 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 00:51:48
>>244
It's a type of typing that young teen boys (nerdy ones/outcasts) use to appear "cool."

It's where they replace letters with numbers/symbols. It's generally thought of as very stupid.

246 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 00:52:59
>>243

Yeah, I read about it from "Gone with the wind."
It's history, isn't it?

247 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 00:54:01
>>241
Southern Belle is usually a reference to a pretty Southern girl.
It was a common term during the U.S. Civil War era. Now-a-days
you won't hear that term just thrown out at any time. Conservative,
in a sexual context,is mostly exhibited by devout religious people.

248 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 00:54:13
>>238
Japanese government should create the society where those
extreme introverts can live peacefully, then.
Why do we have to go outside and interact with others, anyways?
We can do it by internet nowadays.
Well, maybe in the West, people are nice and happy chatin with others.
But most Japanses are not. We are really struggling to adjust ourselves to western culture.
Japanese dont need to westernized if people dont want.

249 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 00:54:34
Oh, I see. Thank you!
Well, but it saves a lot of time and energy, doesn't it?

250 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 00:58:02
Hello, the American!
I have a qestion.

Is Hayao Miyazaki famous in the US?

251 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 00:58:04
>>248
There are a large amount of people in the west who are not good with interacting outside either.
I'm not very good with it. Even so, there are reasons for people to go outside anyhow.

Even so, I don't really understand what "westernized" means.

252 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 00:59:03
>>247

Some people say "Abstinence" is the only way to protect teengage girls from getting
pregnant and single mothers.

253 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 00:59:45
why americans love anal sex ?
its so gross

254 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:00:55
>>250
Many people know "of" him (or atleast know a film or two).
Spirited Away is probably the only thing anyone here knows. I don't want to say "famous." I guess he's fairly well known.



255 :或る醫學生 ◆jv9PhcfTmc :2006/10/21(土) 01:01:09
The South? Nothing but the images of KKK comes into my mind.

256 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:01:36
>>247
So there's no connotation that a girl is conservative in sex in the
term, Southern Bell?

257 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:03:05
>>252
That's what's taught over here, which is a shame. I wish American schools would go more for teaching them
to use protection. Abstinence IS the only sure-fire way (though condoms, with correct use, will provide protection)
I blame lack of teaching kids to use correct protection for the amount of single mothers/teenage mothers.

>> 253
There are a lot of people who don't, too! I've never found it particularly appealing.


258 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:04:11
you americans are very helpful
please come here anytime

259 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:05:11
>>255
Much of the south is black (for instance, where I'm living right now is 45% white, 45% back), so KKK isn't something that exists much anymore
There still is a lot of racial tension though, and there are still some KKK-factions, but certainly not many.

>>256
Well, there are girls who are conservative in sex. Many, infact, but it's not rare or unusual for a girl to be liberal about sex now.

As for Southern Belle, it's mostly a joke term now-a-days, isn't it?

260 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:05:13
Because of rampant AIDS and all plus Britney Spears declared she would
keep her veriginity until getting married, I heard being verigin became
kind of cool in US at one time.

What's the situation like now?

261 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 01:06:21
What about contraseptive pills?
Here in Japan the medicine started being used only a few years ago
because it had been used strictly for a medical use.

262 :或る醫學生 ◆jv9PhcfTmc :2006/10/21(土) 01:06:49
>>260
But she is pregnant now.

263 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:07:16
>>260
Hahahah. I'm sorry. Britney Spears as a virgin just makes me giggle.
Being a virgin I don't think has really ever been "cool" for a long time in the US.

For myself, I don't see that it's "cool" to be a virgin. I would rather not be one.
A lot of guys prefer if the girl isn't a virgin. Virgin girls tend to be clingyer after sex, or they think more of sex than they should.

264 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:08:31
>>261
Birth-control pills are in wide-use. I plan to get on them soon.
They have more use than just contraceptive. They also help with hormonal problems.

As far as I know, they've been in wide-use for a pretty long time.

265 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/21(土) 01:09:22
>>232
Yeah, for artistic things in general. There's a lot of copying of
American things (from what I saw when I visited Tokyo), but the way
it's interpreted was completely foreign to me. It was quite difficult
to figure out that some things were supposed to be American or in English.

>>238
It took me a while to realize why people read or napped so much on the
subways: to avoid having to make eye contact.

>>241
"Southern Belle", yeah. Most of the southern chicks I know and like are
hell-raisers - not conservative at all.

>>239
http://www.1chan.net/overchan/ is a listing of 2ch/2channel style boards.



266 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:09:27
Dont use handle name
but you are NOT American

267 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 01:09:33
>>262
Yeah, she is.
I've heard about her male nanny.
A man seems to be taking care of her son.
I think it does tremendous good to the boy.

268 :或る醫學生 ◆jv9PhcfTmc :2006/10/21(土) 01:09:55
>>261
I've heard pills are used widely in America.
Very popular, I think.
The rate of avoiding being pregnant is about 99 per cent.
It's higher than using condoms.

269 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:10:37
>>266
I'm not?

That kind of confuses me. I live in the US, but I'm not an American OH GOD OH GOD CONFUSION

270 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:11:07
Usual Americans are done with their first experiece by getting grade 4.

271 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:12:07
>>268
Well, for people who don't want to risk pregnancy at all, they use both condoms and contraceptive.
If the condom breaks, the pill is still there to keep the risk as low as possible.



272 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/21(土) 01:12:43
>>250 >>254
I'd say that more people have heard of Totoro or Princess Mononoke than
Spirited Away. (It didn't help that Disney took forever to release his
older films.)

>>268
Yeah, the Pill is very common in the US.

273 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:14:19
>>268
Yeah, and most important of all, the guy can cum inside of pu**y.

274 :或る醫學生 ◆jv9PhcfTmc :2006/10/21(土) 01:14:50
Sprited Away is a real masterpiece. It's a must-see.

275 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 01:15:44
I don't think most of high school girls here have started using the pills,
which is a shame!


276 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:16:01
>>273
Actually, most important of all is that you don't have the lowered-sensation from having a condom on.
Any guy who has had sex with a condom and then without will say that it feels different.

(And nearly always, that without a condom feels better).

277 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:17:04
>>262
She is married to a dancer as far as I know.

>>263
>A lot of guys prefer if the girl isn't a virgin.

Isn't that because guys don't take having a sex with a girl seriously?
Let's say my girlfriend has very good skills in blowjobs. What comes
in my mind is that her ex-boyfriends in the past taught her how to do
it skillfully. That makes me turn off.


278 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:18:24
>>That kind of confuses me

I cant understand this sentence grammatically
Please teach me!!

279 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 01:18:28
Those boys who appear in Miyazaki's films aren't really like boys.
Some of them are real weaklings!

280 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:19:16
>>277
I've heard of a few people who prefered girls who are innocent, but many guys here
would rather the girl know what to do, and not to put too much emotion behind it.

Sex doesn't mean much to everyone. To me, sex is just something biological; not really important.
Is it strange there to have sex with someone who isn't a boyfriend/girlfriend?

281 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:20:41
>>278
(Someone telling me I'm not American) confuses me (a bit).

Does that make more sense? Not meaning to offend, but do you know what "kind of" means?

282 :或る醫學生 ◆jv9PhcfTmc :2006/10/21(土) 01:21:46
From a medical's point of view, I think the world that Hayao Miyazaki
created in Spirited Away somehow resembles delusion caused
inside a schzoid's brain.
The mix of the Western and the Eastern, the old and the new...
That really captures the circumstances that this country is in now.

283 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 01:21:48
>>277
You should appreciate her skills and also thank her ex for
letting her learn that...

284 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:24:56
kind of の後ろは名詞か形容詞じゃないの??

285 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 01:27:26
>>280
Yeah, it is strange at least to me but I know some people have
sex friends with whom they have a casual sex...

286 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:28:26
>>284
何でもいいんだよ。意味は日本語でいう「みたいな」みたいなかんじ。

287 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:28:41
>>280
I have to admit here in Japan, some youngsters have sex with someone
who's not their boyfriend/girlfriend. Personally I don't like their
attitude toward sex. Sex shouldn't be just to release sexual desire.
I love innocent woman far more than a woman who takes sex casually and
don't mind having sex with a man who is not her boyfriend.

>>283
I think I am at the opposit end compared with you.

288 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:29:48
>>284
you can insert "kind of " anywhere and put ambugious air to it


289 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 01:30:10
>>282
A schzoid's brain... Intresting.
I watched "Beautiful Mind."
Russell Crow was the main character.

290 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:31:53
Most guys in Japan prefer the virgin to the used.
That's for sure.
It's kind of obvious, though.

291 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:31:55
>>287
See, I prefer having relationships where sex is something good and special, but not...
How do I explain it?

I don't want sex to be something important. Good, special, yes, but not put on a pedestal.
I can understand the liking for someone innocent, though. It's fun to teach people new things.

I would rather have sex with a boyfriend though, to be honest.

292 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:32:48
>>286
このkind of は 「一種の〜」の意味じゃなくて
「ちょっと〜」という意味のkind of ??
しかも辞書には後ろには形容詞がきてkind of hungryみたいな意味を表すと書いてるけど
このアメリカ人の場合はa bitと同じような使い方してるってこと??
ということはThat confuses me kind of . という言い方もできるの??


293 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 01:33:11
>>287
If you are not so afraid of "commitment," that would be fine.
Innocent inexperienced girls would demand for your sheer commitment.

294 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:35:55
In Japan, small number of high school girls have a sex with a middle-aged
man to get some money. The girls post on the internet bulletin board
to find a man who gives them a money in exchange for a sex.

Is it the case in US, too?

295 :或る醫學生 ◆jv9PhcfTmc :2006/10/21(土) 01:35:59
>>289
I read original "Beautiful Mind".

296 :keiko ◆y/jU0OiBZs :2006/10/21(土) 01:36:53
sarah
do you know the word " yellow cab"?


297 :或る醫學生 ◆jv9PhcfTmc :2006/10/21(土) 01:37:11
>>292
Yeah. Kind of.

298 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:37:47
Mel Gibson hates Jews.
And we hate Mel Gibson.

299 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:38:29
>>294
No, it would be illegal for most highschool girls here. The Age of Consent here is usually around 16~18, depending on state.
Plus, any operation like that would get shut down very quickly. It's prostitution.



300 :或る醫學生 ◆jv9PhcfTmc :2006/10/21(土) 01:38:56
>>296
I remember it was a name created by a novelist in Japan.(I
forgot who it was though) Oops, you are not asking me..

301 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 01:39:22
I think Prince Charles wanted to marry Camila(spelling?) but
he couldn't because she was promiscuous at that time...
The time was long gone, though.

302 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:39:24
>>296
You mean a taxi?

>>298
So do you like Jews? I'm a jew!

303 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:41:29
>>299
Of course it's illegal in japan too
But lots of girls do that for easy money.
Some are filmed for additional money , and end up being widely circulated over the internet and I'm glad. lol

304 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:42:43
Jews are the most powerful people in the world, right?
They rule the world behind the curtain.

305 :或る醫學生 ◆jv9PhcfTmc :2006/10/21(土) 01:42:48
>>302
Really? I'm very interested in Jews.
They are great in (too) many ways.

306 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:43:22
>>293
Why should you be afraid of commitment?
Sex should come with commitment. They can't be seperable.
If you are in love with your girlfriend and think of the relationship
seriously, there's nothing to be afraid of about commitment.
That's my opinion.

307 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:43:44
>>303
Some college-aged girls (not very many) get filmed having sex for money, to pay for tuition costs.
It's rare, however. (But it can't be THAT rare, based on the huge amount of porn).

I'm sure there are some girls who get paid for it, but I've never met any.
I know of more kids who sell prescription drugs for quick money.
I would rather just get a part-time job.

308 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:44:57
>>304
Haha, Jews are no different than anyone else. There's no one that "rules the world" behind a curtain. Except for that man behind the curtain; don't look at him!

>>305
How so? I'm not actually practicing. I recently moved, and I've been looking for a Synagogue to attend.

309 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:45:45
>>299
Here, it's the men to be punished.
If a man have a sex with or without paying money with a girl under 18,
he is arrested.

310 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:45:54
Sarah is a good girl.
She is rightous.
We can tell.
Ah drugs!! that's rare in Japan, I think.

311 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 01:46:49
Jewish children can get a present every day as long as 8 days during
Hanuka(spelling?), right?

312 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:47:55
>>309
Here it would be the men too. The girl (if she's under 18) is not the one at fault.
Of course, it's all just about "if you get caught" isn't it?

>>310
Really? Drugs are pretty common here, but it's not like everyone uses them. I'd say the majority is against drugs.
But a large amount of people prefer sticking to "it's their choice."

313 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:49:26
>>306
people have sex just for fun sometime in their lives.
in this case there is no need for commitment.

314 :或る醫學生 ◆jv9PhcfTmc :2006/10/21(土) 01:49:41
Sarah, you are a real fast typist!

315 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:49:44
Jews are very intelligent and genetically superior. That's my impression.
I love Larry David and Curb your enthusiasm.

316 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:50:16
>>311
The presents are just small things, like chocolate coins or tangerines (my favorite food!) or small trinkets.
My family celebrates Christmas though. The tree, the lights, the hundreds of dollars of presents.

Channukah (there are about 10 different spellings) is just a minor Holiday. At the end of September and the beginning of October,
that's when the two major holidays were. Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur.
It's interesting!

I grew up Christian, even though half of my family is Jewish, so I've never been able to learn much about it.

317 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 01:51:22
>>306
That's fine. You are ready to get settled and have a family but
some of us want to go out with boyfriends/ girlfriends without
getting so much involved.

318 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:51:34
>>314
I type around 110 words per minute!

>>315
I prefer thinking that there's not really anyone who is genetically superior ;)

319 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 01:52:26
>>313
It's ok to have a sex just for fun as long as a man and a woman are
in relationship. That's my opinion.

320 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 01:54:01
>>319
That's a fine opinion!
For me, I think it's OK to have sex for fun as long as you know the person fairly well.
Maybe not in a relationship with, but atleast friends with.



321 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 02:00:17
Friend is a friend, not a boyfriend/girlfriend.

It's not ok to have sex with a friend even if you know him/her well.
It'S ok ti have sex with your boy/girlfriend.

This argument is going in circles. hehe

322 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 02:01:22
>>321
It's not an argument! :)
It's just two people stating opinions. My opinion is my opinion, your opinion is your opinion.
Neither is right or wrong.

323 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 02:04:09
I'm always on Sarah's side in every argument.

324 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 02:06:12
Yeah. I insisted on my opinion and you did, too.

And one thing is for sure. That is I am a man who acted like a pervert
and IS pervert maybe who asked you how you do masterba... :p
I'm hopeless.

325 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 02:07:55
>>323
Well, that's kind of cool ;)

>>324
haha, nah, you're normal! Everyone is a pervert, and that's just fine. I'm a pervert.

Okay, okay, I ought to get going. It's noon and I need to make lunch and go to sleep.

326 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 02:09:51
You are gonna take a nap in the daytime...

I'll hit the sack then. See you around.

327 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 02:12:18
Everyone is a pervert...that's for sure.
Come to think of that, I am a pervert myself.
Sleep tight everyone!

328 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 02:13:03
>>326
No, I haven't slept yet. I stayed up all night, so hopefully this will be a good LOOONG sleep.
Have a good night! I'll be back around some other time.



329 :或る醫學生 ◆jv9PhcfTmc :2006/10/21(土) 02:14:05
Let's call it a nite. I'm off to bed too.
But before that, I'm gonna take a glimpse of 4chan...
see you

330 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 02:16:26
>>328
Maybe when you get up, it's November. hehe

331 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 02:17:27
>>327, >>329
Sweet dreams.

332 :hyf270:2006/10/21(土) 02:25:10
>>228
4-ch.org, 4chan.org, 7chan.org
are all popular english 2chan like boards
But 4chan is made of very weird people...

>>230
Oh yes she can. Many americans have poor english skills,
either because of the poor schools, or just because
most people have bad english, everyone who speaks well gets lazy

>>233

Well kinda. by itself, it's just a name, so it doesn't actually matter.
Usually, we would say "Channel 4" instead, when referring to TV or radio.

>>250

Not very, but Disney has made some of his movies into english.
Spirited Away is the best translation i've ever seen. The Lipsyncing is great!

>>252

In some ways, but teaching abstinence as the only method is ignorance,
and will result in more unneeded pregnancies

>>256

You mean Belle. Belle is french for Beauty or Beautiful.
Southern Bell is a Phone Company



333 :hyf270:2006/10/21(土) 02:25:54
>>260

263 has a point, but then a lot of guys also fantasize about having a virgin.
Depends on the guy I suppose.

>>294

i'm sure it happens, but it is far less common, as high school girls
are usually under the age of consent, and prostitution is illegal.

More often, girls post on internet forums looking for a 'good time',
and some older man tricks them.

>>303

lots of girls here will let themselves be filmed for some cash. If you
ever watch TV past 11PM in the US, cable channels will usually have ads
for "Girls Gone Wild", a very popular series based off this.

>>310

Drugs here aren't exactly rare, most (I think about half) of americans
will have at least tried drugs by the time they're through college, even
if they don't admit it. Most people don't care about drugs too much,
but they don't use them only because they're illegal.

334 :hyf270:2006/10/21(土) 02:27:14
Sleep well, everyone!

335 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 02:29:07
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_methods
when you want to sleep forever.
which one do you choose?
sayonara..

336 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 03:12:03
I've been gone for a couple hours and so many posts have been made...
>>333
I've met plenty of people that have been or are smoking pot. I just
look at them sometimes and think that they are real idiots because most
of the time they act like idiots.
>>335
Suicide methods? I wouldn't go by suicide. It's such as bad way to go.

337 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 03:54:21
I wonder if American high schools have axes for emergency
like in Buffy.

338 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 03:59:29
なんでサラは金曜の昼間に寝てるの?
主婦?

339 :7fds8:2006/10/21(土) 04:07:41
>>338
学生、多分。

I may as well jump on the English bandwagon since I randomly
stumbled upon this thread. I'm Canadian, but that's
similar enough :P

340 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 04:38:53
>>337
I don't think my school did.
>>339
Yeah, why not? This is a good thread anyways. I came here because
it's a little more lively than the English Info thread.

341 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 07:54:38
Are Japanophiles the people who like anime, the fashion, all the KAWAII things
such as Hello Kitty? Do they happen to be interested in Japanese traditional
culture as well as the pop culture?

342 :hyf270:2006/10/21(土) 08:08:16
>>341
It depends. There are some (like me) that are
interested in all parts of japan. Then there are those
that go around watching DBZ and screaming "DESUDESUDESU".

A lot of american kids like anime, but not many care beyond that.

343 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 08:11:23
>>342
Those people yelling "desu" are exactly the type of people that
I hate. They are obnoxious.

344 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 08:11:40
DBZ? Oh, Dragon Ball Z, isn't it?
Are you interested in the language as well?
How do you study it where you are? I imagine you are NOT in Japan...

345 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 08:55:03
what means "desu"?

346 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 11:07:19
>>345
It's a joke from Rozen Maiden where Suiseiseki (sp?) would say "desu" a lot or something. I've never seen it.

As for me, I watch anime/dramas a lot (not just limited to Japanese ones; I like some Korean/Taiwanese ones too, but Japanese ones tend to have
the best production), and I'm interested in the language, but I'm not one of the Japanophile kids that thinks that they'd fit in better in Japan.
I know that in Japan, I would never actually fit in there. I don't want to live there, though I guess I would visit if I had money.

>>344
Best way to study Japanese here are in classes. I'm a soon-to-be college student, and if it's available, I might take it. Will it actually be useful in my
future? More than likely not.

>>341
A lot of people are interested in Japan, but the biggest sign of being a JAPANOPHILE is thinking that Japan is perfect.
That Japan can do no wrong. A lot of Japanophiles are anime fans who think that anime is just like real life.

>>337
No, no axes. :) There are lots of fire extinquishers, though. There are no weapons kept in schools (except for
the School's police officers; they're usually armed).

Oh, and I'm awake again! Good evening for me, good morning for you, right?

347 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 11:21:37
>>346
What field are you looking in to? If it's business, then it probably
would be helpful.

348 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 11:27:46
>>347
I want to go into some area of scientific research. Hopefully, meteorology (weather-forecasting).

I'm not really someone who can do business, but there is a company near by called "Denso" (Full name is Nippon Denso)
that will hire you for knowing Japanese.

Then again, Japan does have different weather patterns. I would be happy researching it anywhere.


349 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 11:33:13
>>348
Are you aiming to be an actual weather person on TV as well as behind
camera, or just behind the camera? I always thought meteorology
was a cool area to get into, but I never really felt that it was my
passion area.

350 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 11:36:14
>>349
I don't want to be the person on TV. Being one of the people behind
the scenes is what I'd want. But what I really want is to do research.
To me, research makes the biggest impact.

What are you aiming for?

351 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 11:37:53
Learning Japanese is very difficult for English speaking people, so I don't reccomend it.
Japanese culture is shallow and boring. Nothing to be learned from it.

352 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 11:40:15
>>351
"Japanese culture is shallow and boring, Nothing to be learned from it"

Can you really say much better about English? ;)

353 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 11:40:29
>>332
Thanks for the post. I should've spelled Belle.

>>348
I'm not 100% sure but Denso is one of the affiliated company of
Toyota. Maybe owned by Toyota. If my memory serves right, it is a
company that manufacures air conditioner desigened for a car.

Japan has four seasons and the rainy season that lasts for a month
from end of june to end of July, too.
Summer in Japan is hot and humid. I've heard America's South has
hot and humid weather compared to California.

354 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 11:46:48
>>350
I'm currently majoring in Computer Science.
>>351
Just like how some people might want to learn about our culture and
the English language, we do the same in the opposite. We grew up here
and find our society to be shallow and boring, so we seek to learn about
other cultures. It's sort of an adventurous side of people. They want
to seek down something new outside of their world.

355 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 11:48:26
>>353
I'm pretty sure you're right about Denso :)

It depends where you are for weather. I can explain two of the places I've lived in.

Western Arkansas:
Long summers, from around late April to October, usually started at about 90, peaking at about 105 during
the middle of summer, and then dropping sometime around September and October.
It doesn't rain very much during the summer, so it's a really horrible dry heat.
Short Autumn, mild winter, short spring.

Eastern Tennessee:
It's very humid most of the time, but I prefer when it's humid.
The winters are mild, but kind of cold to me (I can't take the cold)
The springs and falls are generally pretty long. East Tennessee does
have a sort of a rainy season during the spring months, and very rarely
gets anywhere near a drought.
We had droughts often when I lived in Arkansas.

I live in South Alabama now, and I was born in Northern Ohio,
but I was very young when I lived in Ohio, so I don't remember how the
weather was. Anytime that I've visited though, it's usually been
very overcast.
I haven't lived long enough in Alabama to know the weather, but
it's been in the 80s-90s (Fahrenheit, I don't know Celcius) since I've been here.

356 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 11:50:51
>>354
This is very true :)
A culture might seem "shallow" or "boring" to someone that's in it,
but to a person outside, it's something they've never seen before.
People can either resent them for being different from them, or they
can be interested in them. I prefer to take an interest and learn
about it.

357 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 12:04:38
he-
americans use Fahrenheit !!!
why don't they use Celcius??
everybody else uses Celsius, right? and every scientific field uses Celcius, so what's the point in stubbonly using Fahrenheit??
Please become the president of the US and change it.

358 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 12:09:42
>>357
Unlike the rest of the world, we have had different scales of measure
for almost everything. The legislation to change all standard measurements
to the metric system failed horribly because the politicians believed it
would be too "big" of a project to do. What they really didn't want to do
was probably spend the tax money for furthering education on the metric system
even though we learn about it anyway since elementary school. So, my point is, the
possibility of being able to change measurement systems for anything here is slim to
none even if you are the president. (Sorry)

359 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 12:09:47
>>357
Because by this time, it's difficult to just switch it. I used to
know the formula for going from Fahrenheit to Celcius, but I forgot it.
Telling 300,000,000 people to stop using Fahrenheit RIGHT NOW is something
difficult to do, and not a decision made by the president :)

I would use Celcius instead if it weren't for the fact that everything
here is in Fahrenheit.

Plus, changing to Fahrenheit would be when we all change over to actually using
the metric system too, right?

360 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 12:11:39
>>358
For example, I'm 5 foot 6 inches and 118 pounds! Using metric
for height/weight confuses me.



361 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 12:16:33
>>354
Start up a company like Google, then. :)
Is it easy for comuter science major students to master HTML or
other programming?

>>355
Thank you for going into expaling the weather of the places where
you've lived in. Seems like American south has hot summer as I've
heard.
I live where it's winter is mild, Hiroshima.
(You guys maybe know the city because of A-bombing.) I said mild but still
in winter, it snows and snow piles up and cause traffic
accidents or trains stop running because of heavy snow. Flights is cancelled
and all.

362 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 12:21:44
>>361
Yes, that's the only way I've ever heard of Hiroshima.

In Tennessee, it doesn't snow much. It might snow two days during the winter,
and it's only an inch at most of snow. But because of how the land
is (Mountains/valleys all over), they would close school even for a small
amount.

I wish I could live somewhere with long falls and long winters. :(
Maybe I should move to the northern west coast.

That sounds like a fairly severe winter to me. Mild to me is when it doesn't
snow very much at all. :(



363 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 12:22:01
many americans deny science and believe blindly what the bible says
so the metric system is useless for most americans
few people who believe science(considered as insane by many) take the trouble of learning the metric system
that's my impression

364 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 12:27:02
>>361
Like Google? Haha! That would be a difficult undertaking. Google
already has a firm grip on anything internet. However, if I do pick
up HTML, I will try to think of something innovative that I can release
on the internet. Maybe then Google would buy it...

By the way, weather in Ohio is very mixed. We have a hot/mildly humid summer, a warm-cold fall and spring,
and a winter that can range from really bad snow to just freezing rain. Of course, Ohio sits on pretty much
a swirling vortex where air from the north and south pretty much meet.

365 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 12:29:34
We used very different measuring systems for such a long time.
SHAKU, for length, KAN, for weight, RI, for the distance, and many more...

I remember my great grandmother had difficulty in saying the new meteric
systems... Japan had to change the systems to catch up with the rest of
the world.

366 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 12:30:23
>>363
Many americans; not all. The majority of people do not go by the bible.
It's not a "few people who believe science." Please, don't think
that that is true. Yes, there are a lot of people who go by the bible,
but not the majority, and they aren't "considered insane."

Pretty much any kid who has gone through school has learned that
the metric system is a better system, but we all know that it would be
too difficult to switch everything over in a short amount of time.
It would take a lot of time and a lot of effort and money to
switch it over at all.

And it's not that we don't learn the metric system. We learn the
metric system in school. There are some classes where you only use
the metric system, too. It's just that because everything else is
in SI format, we don't use it in day-to-day life.


367 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 12:34:42
I remember a man was arrested for practicing poligamy in the South...
or was that in the Center of America?

368 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 12:34:47
There are many Americans that are religious, but we are also secular
in many ways. If we were all raving Bible "fanatics" we wouldn't have
the type of shows we have on TV here.

369 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 12:38:45
>>367
It wasn't in the south, it was in the west. In Salt Lake City, Utah,
which is known for a type of Christianity known as Mormonism (generally
though of as kind of bad by many people), and has some people who
practice polygamy through it. The man wasn't arrested just for
polygamy.

>>368
Yeah, our TV shows aren't very secular at all, unless you're watching
a Christian station. It's my secret love, but I really really love
watching Bravo and Style network. All the men might be gay, but
boy oh boy, do I love the shows.

370 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 12:40:57
>>369
Secular means apart from the church or religious standing. I think
you misinterpreted or something.

371 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 12:42:51
It seems in modern days not so many people can stay religious.
Americans are not so religious, nor are the Japanese, but it
seems the idea,LOVE and SERVICE, is still a strong element
in your society.

372 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 12:42:52
>>370

Oshi, I did. I didn't even think about that, I just misread what you
said :(

I'm kind of dumb sometimes. What I mean was *Our TV shows are pretty secular.



373 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 12:43:28
that poligamist leader is also a child predetor
that's why he was arrested
i watched it in larry king live
larry king is getting old and I will be sad to see him go
larry king live has taught me English a lot

374 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 12:45:59
>>373
Yes, that's why.
What else do you watch besides Larry King Live?
I don't watch news or talk shows like that. I mostly watch primetime
TV shows (like crime dramas such as CSI or NCIS or Law & Order)

>>371
Can you tell me what you mean by love and service being a strong
element here?

375 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 12:48:10
most americans think global warming is a myth
american public schools teach creationism as science
public school students are forced to say pledge of allegiance with one nation under God in it
in trial, one swears to God to tell the truth
the president swear in with one hand one the bible
God bless America

it is not God vs science, though
america is a God-centered country is my impression

376 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 12:48:32
>>372
It's fine, I understand.
>>373
It is quite sad, but everybody gets old.

377 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 12:53:06
>>375
Most americans know global warming is true
We don't teach creationism anymore in most schools
We're not forced to say the pledge. Yes, it's usualy said, but
you won't get in trouble for not saying it. A large amount of student
prefer not to say it, and that's fine too.
For swearing to god, it's just meerly a way of saying "I won't lie."

America is NOT God-centric. Yes, there are many people who believe
in god. I believe in God, because that's my religion.
I won't deny that "God" is something important in the US, but it
does not rule everyones life.

378 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 12:55:51
>>374

People seem to be interested in taking part of volunteering.
Students are adviced to and willing to play with handicapped children and
participate in many kinds of aids regardless of their religions.

I think those activities are based on their religions.
Here, 90 percent of the people don't believe in anything.
We use christian weddings, Buddhist funerals, Shinto for celebrating
newborn babies....There aren't any strong belief in doing those.

379 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 12:58:23
>>378
I know very few people who do volunteering. Many people will donate
to charity when they see someone taking donations. True, when I was
in school, we did help out with the handicapped children a lot.

I don't think these activities are really based on religion though,
but on feeling empathy for other people.

Why are there no strong beliefs in it?

380 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 13:01:18
>>375
Okay, here it goes:
1. SOME Americans think global warming is a myth and it is those
few that are voicing their opinions. However, global warming is a
real thing that naturally happens, but us humans are speeding the
process along.
2.No, public schools do not teach creationism as science just like
they don't teach evolution. Rather they "mention" both possibilities
and say that it depends on the students' beliefs.
3. The pledge of allegiance has been around since the creation of the
nation. Now, arguements to taking it out is reserved for a national political
movement, however seeing that God can be taken through any religion with a God,
then I think it works.
4. That was a practice from the early days of the nation. Now I believe that they
have a more secular approach depending on region. I believe some courts just do the
whole, "Do you swear to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth." part only now.
5. That's song that's been around since pretty much the creation of the nation.
6. It completely depends on the area and region. If it is conservative, you are most
likely going to see religious people. If it is liberal, then maybe secular. However,
you have to consider that religion isn't entirely a bad thing. In government it shouldn't
be tied in, but in individual lives it plays a part of giving hope and morals. You can't make
judgements until you've been around the real society.

381 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 13:04:13
>>380
You've said this much better than I can :)

382 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 13:05:09
>>376
You can't imagine when I found accidentally one gray hair in my
underhair. Now the number has gorwn to four or five.

You can't imagine how I lost my words when I found out a few months ago
that my hairline began to receding.

383 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 13:06:34
>>382
How old are you?

384 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 13:07:28
>>382
Be careful, it might be stress. And stress leads to heart problems.
Take it easy.
>>381
Thank you.

385 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 13:08:36
>>379

No strong beliefs...because the same people go to go to shrines
for blessing babies, go to churches for their own weddings and
go to temples or use Buddhist priests to practice their funerals...
How could we have strong beliefs in doing that?

A Christian wedding is just chosen because it's romantic and
you get to wear a taxido and a white weddind dress. Most of
us don't know any christian beliefs. We like it because
it's prettier...



386 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 13:09:46
>>385
Shhh, that's the main reason why people over here like Christian weddings
too ;)
The dresses are pretty and the cakes are tasty! Why else?

387 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 13:11:53
>>385
I know where you're coming from. That's quite understandable. There
are plenty of people that don't believe in God that have their
weddings in churches anyway.

388 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 13:19:51
>>383
30 something pervert.

I guess ◆gFIdoOIh.U and other Japanese who are good enough at English
and has posted here long messages who can get their ideas across in
English is old guys like me.

It takes a long period of time and perseverance and efforts for
average Japanese English learners, not inculuding who has lived English-speaking
countries, to be able to express their ideas in English.


389 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 13:21:25
>>374
In Japan, those prime time TV shows are not available like in america.
popular ones are imported from america
i watch them when they are availave in japan
my favorite shows are;
Full House(NHK is doin reruns at seven on tusedays), Beverly Hills90210, 24, Lost,
They are all somewhat popular in Japan.
CSI or Law&Order is not as popular.
Why CSI's or without a trace or those crime dramas are popular in the US?
Is there any reason?

Prime-time viewership numbers compiled by Nielsen Media Research for Oct. 9-15.
1. Grey's Anatomy, ABC, 22.88 million viewers.
2. CSI, CBS, 21.85 million viewers.
3. Desperate Housewives, ABC, 20.64 million viewers.
4. Dancing with the Stars, ABC, 20.10 million viewers.
5. Dancing with the Stars Results Show, ABC, 18.21 million viewers.
6. CSI: NY, CBS, 17.97 million viewers.
7. NFL Post Game Show, CBS, 17.96 million viewers.
8. CSI: Miami, CBS, 17.61 million viewers.
9. 60 Minutes, CBS, 17.28 million viewers.
10. Lost, ABC, 16.89 million viewers.
11. Criminal Minds, CBS, 16.73 million viewers.
12. Two and a Half Men, CBS, 16.38 million viewers.
13. NCIS, CBS, 15.86 million viewers.
14. Survivor: Cook Islands, CBS, 15.84 million viewers.
15. Deal or No Deal (Monday), NBC, 15.41 million viewers.
16. Without a Trace, CBS, 15.17 million viewers.
17. Extreme Makeover: Home Edition, ABC, 14.90 million viewers.
18. ER, NBC, 14.58 million viewers.
19. Shark, CBS, 14.15 million viewers.
20. Cold Case, CBS, 13.97 million viewers.

390 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 13:25:25
Okay, well, I'm done for tonight(here in U.S.)/today(there). I'll
be back when I wake up. Yay for the weekend.

391 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 13:25:45
>>389
Full House? The American one from the early 90s? I've never seen 90210; I was too young when it aired.
People like to watch Crime Dramas. I don't know why; I enjoy
watching them too.

I have seen many Japanese dramas (like Hana Yori Dango and others)
How popular are those?

I don't watch 24 or Lost (I just don't really like them. Not interesting to me)


392 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 13:26:25
>>390
Goodnight! My night is just beginning!


393 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 13:27:00
>>390
Sleep tight.

394 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 13:42:17
No one around now? :(

395 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 13:47:48
I'm off to attend an English language school, which at least
gives me an opportunity to use the language.
Other than that, I rarely have any chance. Thank you all for
answering my quetions.
See you.

396 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 13:50:07
>>395
Good luck!

397 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 13:50:33
>>391
HanaYoriDando was really popular with average ratings of 20% or so, which is a big suscess in Japan.
I think that drama is based on a comic book, so many of the comic book fans watched it.
And the story is set in a school. Japanese people loves school dramas. (I don't know why)
OH! Hanayori has Matsujun in it!! That's why...

398 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 14:08:21
>>397
Yeah, it was based off of a Manga.
So did they like Nobuta wo Produce too if they like school dramas?

So is MatsuJun as popular in Japan as he is with American girls who
like Japanese dramas?

399 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 14:15:49
Why is America arrogant?

400 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 14:19:37
>>399
Not everyone in America is arrogant. You can't say "America is arrogant."
America isn't one person. The US is too varied between areas, people,
social standings, and beliefs.

Why do you think America is arrogant?

401 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 14:32:04
Which country are the Americans concerned about, Iran or North Korea?
We Japanese don't have much information about Iran issues.
Few media provide us with them.

402 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 14:41:24
>>301
The average American is more concerned with their own life.

403 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 14:49:52
>>398

I'm not so familiar with dramas these days but I know these two dramas.
I haven't watched them though. No. I watched the first episode of
Nobuta wo produce.

The reason why dramas whose setting is at school are popular I guess
is that bullying, friendship, club activity after school, and relationship
if their setting is co-ed school, are the theme of the dramas and kids
can relate to them.

Kids root for some chareacters in a drama who has a lot in common with them.

I don't know to what extent MatsuJun is popular in US but he sure is
popular here, too. He is a member of a boys group called " Arashi", right?

One famous Japanese talent agency called "Jannie's (sp?) Office" or rather
"Jannie's agency"? has produced so many popular boys groups since it started
business i show bizz arena.

The two men who starred "Nobuta wo Produce" (I guess you can say two boys
and one girl costarred the drama.) are both in Jannie's office, although
they are originally from different boys group each other. Not from the
same boys group with Matsujun either. (The two boys in Nobuta has released
one single tune paired, though.)

That's about all I know.


404 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 14:54:53
>>402
I see.
You definitely have to be concern with your future and friends at your age.

By the way, which languages can you choose at school.
We have no choice. Most of us have to learn English from junior high school.

405 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 14:55:01
>>398
By the way, you wrote,

>Yeah, it was "based off of" a Manga.

I remember "A Person" writing the same expression somewhere.
Is it the same as "based on?" If so, I think both two expressions are
pretty interesting because they mean the same thing while using a proposition
that has the opposite meaning, "off" and "on."

406 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 14:55:23
>>398
yes! Nobuta wo produce LOL you know alot about Japanese dramas!!
That drama too was popular, but not as popular as Hana Yori Dango.. with a decent 16%〜18% range i think. 

I don't know how popular MatsuJun is among those american girls,
but I think his popularity in Japan is not so high like it used to be when Arashi came up
because of the new Johnnys stars like Kamenashi( Kat-tun) or YamaP(News)- .
But among Arashi menbers, I think he is the most successful.
He is doing MC of a primetime show with Ayaya. I think.
The rest of Arashi, I don' know anything about them.
Oh , of course they sell CDs a lot but not as well as Kat-tun or Tokio or Smap or V6 or Takki-, oh Takky and Tsubasa doesn't sell CDs much....
Johnny's wota are really crazy.

407 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 15:17:15
Sarah must have gone to bed, fingering her clit or something.....

408 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 15:37:09
サラってハイフンでつながった単語の使い手だな。
shut-in 閉じこもった(ままの人)
stuck-up 高慢な
sure-fire 必ずうまくいく
Birth-control 避妊の  
college-aged 大学生の年齢の  
soon-to-be もうすぐ  
day-to-day 毎日の 
God-centric 辞書に書いてなかった

全部初めて聞いた


409 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 15:41:43
Why did you put atomic bomb to Hiroshima first? Were American yankee so retarded that they lost their mind?

410 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 15:43:02
>>406
Maki Horikita, who co-starred the drama, got suddenly popular.
She didn't look like a wild pig. So it may have irritated piggy girls.

411 :408:2006/10/21(土) 15:45:11
サラは日本語わかんないんでしょ
へへへ
サラのおまんこペロペロ グヘヘ

412 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 15:49:43
>>409
It's their justice.

413 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 15:53:39
>>411
名前の欄に408なんて書くとあんたが408みたいだからやめて
おれが408ね

414 :JMS:2006/10/21(土) 15:59:31
OK...

415 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 16:13:49
Sorry, I was watching a TV show with my mother :)

>>406
Yeah, it's one of my secret-loves. I really love watching dramas.
My favorite of any of the Japanese dramas was one called Yasashii
Jikan (it had Nino in it!). Have you heard of/seen it?

MatsuJun isn't someone that would be popular in the US unless
you're someone who watches Japanese dramas (there aren't many people
who do, since for most people they're hard to find).

>>408
I'm going to infer that you defined some of the things we've said,
and thank you very much if you have :)

>>405
Yes, it means the same thing. "off of" won't always mean the same as "on" though.
Such as, "Get off of me!" does not mean "Get on me!" at all!

Back to MatsuJun and other stars,
I don't really like most J-pop too much. I like a few Japanese indie bands
though. A friend recently got me into some bands like ACIDMAN and downy
and Spangle Call Lilli Line (really loving this band!).
Have you heard of them before?

>>411
Actually, I wouldn't put "Sarah" in katakana as サラ. I would use
セイラ, personally. I'm guessing that the first line is "Sarah doesn't
know Japanese," but my Japanese (like I've said) is only limited to kana
and a few kanji.
I have no idea what the last line is :(

416 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 16:17:08
>>404
Most kids here opt for learning Spanish (since for many jobs now, it's required
to know Spanish), but the average school will also offer French, and in some
cases German. Schools with better funding, or schools in more populated
areas tend to offer more languages.

The school I went to offered Spanish, French, and German.

417 :INTERNET:2006/10/21(土) 16:23:35
In West Philadelphia I was born and raised On the playground is where I spent most of my days.
Chillin' out, maxin', relaxin all cool, And all shootin' some b-ball outside of the school. When a couple of guys who were up to no good,
Started makin' trouble in my neighborhood. I got in one little fight and my mom got scared,
And said "You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in bel Air." I whistled for a cab, and when it came near, The license plate said "fresh" and it had dice in the mirror.

If anything I could say that this cat was rare, But I thought "Nah forget it, Yo home to Bel Air." I pulled up to the house about seven or eight,
and I yelled to the cabby "Yo homes, smell ya later." Looked at my kingdom, I was finally there, To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air.

418 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 16:25:13
>>417
sup /b/
;-*

419 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/21(土) 16:59:24
>>357
I prefer Farenheit for weather, because the weather in F is almost always
between 0-99.

>>382
My little brother's hairline is receding, but not mine. I look younger than
him.

>>417
DO NOT WANT. epic fail.

420 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/21(土) 17:04:09
>>419
das ist richtig

421 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/21(土) 22:29:56
Sarah, you seem to live with your mother. Do most of university students in the U.S.
start living by themselves?
In Japan it is not that rare that single men and women over thirty still live
with their parents because of our housing problems. Renting is rather
expensive and younger workers usually don't get paid so much.
Co-dependence between mothers and their grown-up children is a kind of
problem here. What do you think of that?

422 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 22:59:37
>>From where I left off...
Man, you guys are out to kill me. So many posts...
>>405
In that context "based off of" is the same meaning as "based on".
However, just like Sarah said, "off of" and "on" can mean two
different things. In most cases outside of basing books and media to
other things, "off of" and "on" take on the literal meaning.

Example:
1. That movie was based off of another book. (same)
2. That movie was based on another book. (same)

1. Get off of the couch and mow the lawn! (X)
2. Get on the couch. (X)

But in usual cases of using "off" it is used alone.


423 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 23:33:45
>>422
Thank you for your explanarion with sample sentences.
I think I understand what you wrote, but there's one thing I don't
understand.

>In most cases outside of basing books and media to other things,
What does this mean? Would you paraphrase this?

424 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 23:43:56
>>423
What I mean is, if you want to refer to one book that has taken
the main concept of another as its own then it is "based" on that
other book. Let's take Jurassic Park for example. That was a movie
(media) based off of a book. Remixes and covers of songs are
based off of the original song.

Now, the usage of "off of" or "on" that is not related to comparing
two things (such as media) is different. "Off of" and "on" don't carry
the same meaning as they do when comparing or relating objects. And that's
what I mean by, "In most cases outside of basing books and media to other things".

425 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 23:45:16
I thought "off of" basically meant "from".

426 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 23:51:37
GERMAN GIRL IS THE MOST AEAUTIFUL !!

427 :A Person:2006/10/21(土) 23:53:02
>>425
In the context of comparing media and books, yes it does.
Examples:
1. This book is based off of a poem. = This book is based from a poem.
However, in the following contect "off of" and "from" won't hold the
same meaning.
1. Come off of the mountain and go in to town.
2. Come from the mountain and go in to town.

In 1, the person on the mountain is told to to climb down the mountain
to town. But, in 2, the person could just be by the mountain or anywhere
near the mountain then told to go into town.

428 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 23:54:23
>>424
It's around midnight here and I am kind of tired.
It took me reading 424 again and again to understand what you mean,
but now I understand completely what you mean.

Thank you for your detailed explanation.

429 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/21(土) 23:56:24
ドイツ娘マンセー!!

430 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 00:00:16
>>427
Thanks. I got the subtle nuance. I see "off of" and "out there" a lot in the internet.
They were never taught at school.

431 :A Person:2006/10/22(日) 00:04:27
>>428
You're welcome. I've only covered the tip of the whole discussion
though. There is much more to it, but that would take a very
long time to explain every single meaning.
>>430
The thing about English is that there are many nuances. They
tend to be annoying because even as a native speaker, when I read
something, I might have to take a second glance to make sure I
got the meaning right. Contextual differences tell you the meaning
in most cases.

432 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/22(日) 00:48:41
>>421
I'm still underaged (17), so I can't move out. I can't legally move out
until I'm 18.

Most University students start of living in dormatories (housing provided by
the schools), so most students do start off by living away from home.
After that, most parents expect the children to move off and live alone.

It's weird for a child to be living at home past about 22 or 23 here.
It depends on the city, but I don't think our housing costs are as much.

For housing where my sister lives, she pays $570 (about 57,000Y right?)
for a two bedroom apartment (and she splits that three way between her,
her boyfriend, and her friend). That's a smaller town though, so it's
cheaper.
In other cities, it can be around 900$(90,000Y) for a one-bedroom apartment
or more.

433 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 00:52:35
サラのおまんこペロペロ グヘヘ

434 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/22(日) 00:56:45
>>433
I'm licking vagina?
And it should be セイラ, not サラ. :(

435 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 01:00:21
>>432
I guess you haven't slept yet waking up all night.
Is that the case with you on weekend, staying up all night and
go to bed around noon?

436 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/22(日) 01:13:43
>>435
That's my everyday :)
I haven't got anything to do in my life until NEXT Fall, so my
current day-to-day life is kind of abnormal. I recently moved as well,
so I'm trying to get some things straightened out.

437 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 01:36:15
Sarah has a sister. グヘヘ ペロペロ

438 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 01:40:47
>>436
Oh, I see.
I've read you wrote that your life is kind of complicated.
You don't have to go into details.

Now, time for me to go to bed. I'm tired.

439 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 01:42:31
>>438
It's not really complicated, there are just some factors that might
be kind of hard to explain.

440 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 03:26:53
なんでサラは日本語まともに読めないのに名前固定する術を身につけてるわけ??


441 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 06:06:50
Is the lyric below grammartically correct?

Whenever sang my songs
On the stage, on my own
Whenever said my words
Wishing they would be heard
I saw you smiling at me

442 :7fds8:2006/10/22(日) 06:19:03
>>434
I think サラ is closer to a British pronunciation. セイラ doesn't
seem quite right though. How about セーラ?

>>440
「サラ」は音英国発音の感じと思います。米国発音に
「セーラ」が正解か?

443 :7fds8:2006/10/22(日) 06:23:38
>>441
Whenever sang my songs > Whenever I sang my songs
Whenever said my words > Whenever I said my words

You need to identify who "sang"
I assume it is "I" so I would change it to that.
Same with the other one.

The rest seems correct, however.

444 :A Person:2006/10/22(日) 07:52:11
>>441
443 is correct.In grammar, the subject is important because it says
who or what did the action. If you made that lyric, you might
need to change the melody to fit it.

445 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 08:01:09
外人はもっと日本語話すべき。
外人の日本語の使い方はおれたちの発想からは生みだせないものを生み出す。
それは日本語の可能性も広げる


446 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 12:03:59
セァラっていうのが原音に一番近いんじゃないのかな?
だから>>442に言うように、セーラがいいかも。

447 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 12:20:03
I'll wirte something I always find kind of uncomfortable.
It's the way Americans sit in a chair when talikng with Japanese in
an interview setting and such.

I often see them crossing their legs while talikng even in a formal setting.
US Defense Secretary Condoriza (<---not sure of the spelling) Rice
kept her legs crossed while talking with the Japanese counterpart.

OK, it's a part of your culture, but when in Japan, do as the Japanese
do. Crossing legs when talking in formal setting is really rude and
looks arrogant. She was in Japan and talking with the top of Japanese
Forign Affairs Ministry. Seeing her legs crossed was disgusting and
annoynig to me.

If they were talking in the US, it's OK but she was in Japan.
Go with the Japanese manners, Miz Rice when you are in Japan.
Behave yourself.

Well..... Let's say someone is invited to talk on TV show with the host
of the program. I've heard that it's good and recommended to show that
he is enjoying the interview and relaxing. Does he/she cross their legs
as a way to show the host that he's enjoying the interview, as a sign
to show that he is relaxing and having fun to let the host know he is?

448 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/22(日) 12:20:46
>>432
It's about the same here. In the Tokyo metoropolitan areas, it costs
70.000 yen to 12.000 yen (a month) to rent a 2 bedroom apartment.
It's just that usually we don't share an apartment, though sharing an
apartment has come in as a new thing among university students.

I think "Yasashii" culture comes from our co-reliance, mainly between
men and women,mothers and sons, and mothers and daughters...
It seems in western countries, independence is respected more than in
our country. that's why children are expected to have self-reliance,
being strong, whereas in Asian countries, children are children however
old they grow to be. Grown-up children expect their middle-aged parents
to look after them. Middle aged parents are willing to support their
university going children...

449 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/22(日) 12:23:39
>>447

I wonder if you would feel the same way if Rice was a man...

450 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/22(日) 12:26:41
Probably she wasn't aware of the cultural difference.
Sometimes you don't notice it until someone points it out.

At least it was that way with me. I used to slurp from a spoon
when I ate soup... I didn't even notice it!

451 :A Person:2006/10/22(日) 12:32:06
>>447
Men usually cross their legs as a way of relaxing over here. So
it can understandably be seen as a rude gesture. However, it is
a little different for women. Women generally cross their legs to
hide the "essentials". It is considered a womanly manner. I
understand the culture differences, but habits are habits and the
people briefing her evidentally didn't do a good job telling her about
your customs.

452 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 12:36:48
>>449
Of course, I would. It's not the matter of gender to me.

I often get disgusted when I watch on TV musicians, (doen't matter
if male or female,) from US on tour in Japan are sitting in a chair
arrogantly with their legs crossed all the way through the interview.

But that is kind of in a casual setting so I just hold up.

453 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 12:43:27
>>450
>Probably she wasn't aware of the cultural difference.

I can't stand a person who represents one country with authority
in charge of foreign affairs doesn't know how to behave.
It's not her to be blame, though. Make her or all US high ranking
officials in charge of foreign affairs take manner classes.



454 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/22(日) 12:45:40
>>452

Actually I know what you mean and cannot but feel the same way,
and then I've got to keep reminding myself that they are from
a completely differnt culture...

I was surprised that someone like you who speaks English so well
feel the same I feel...

455 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 12:50:16
>>451
> Women generally cross their legs to hide the "essentials".

I didn't know that. But all she had to do was wearing pants.
She knew her destination beforehand, which is Japan where crossing
legs in a formal wetting is considered rude.


456 :7fds8:2006/10/22(日) 12:52:07
This is an interesting subject. On a related topic,
bowing is the traditional greeting in Japan, but the
handshake is the common North American way of greeting. How often
are handshakes used in Japanese business culture?

457 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/22(日) 12:52:20
As a little child, I learned we should look meek and obedient
so that we won't offend anyone. No one told us to do so, but
we just learn that.

458 :A Person:2006/10/22(日) 12:56:41
>>453
I'm sorry about the rudeness that you see in "Western" manners.
However, she is not the Ambassador to Japan. The ambassador I would
expect to exhibit Japanese manners, but employing every single state
politician to learn just your nation's customs and manners is rather
impractical. If we were to have our politicians do that, then just imagine
how many other customs the politicians would have to learn.
Example:
Rice made visits to Europe, Middle East, Asia (China and Japan as well as S. Korea.)
Then you have to take into account that each nation within Europe and the Middle East
has its own little niche.

It wasn't neccessarily Rice's fault but her advisor for not telling her the customs
and polite manners involved. Besides, I'd be more disgusted by the state of the
world than a person's manners.

459 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 12:58:41
What are you talking about?
Where did you learn you should look so?
Courtesy and politeness are inportant factors that tells
what you are like, i think. But why do you ( not we) think
you need to be meek?

460 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/22(日) 13:06:52
Now I see you are upset about what I said.
I tried not to look arrogant as a child, because people around
me didn't like that. "Meek" might not be the right word.

461 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 13:11:05
Well, I wasn't upset. Don't worry.

462 :A Person:2006/10/22(日) 13:13:44
>>459
Let me explain why I need to be "meek". Meek from the dictionary says
humbly patient under provacation. Provacation often entails trying
to cause a rise out of someone. I understand the polite/manners involved
and I perfectly agree that they need to exhibited when in formal settings.
Courtesy and politeness do give first impressions on a person, and it is
the most understandable point.

What I am trying to say is that government advisors tell the actual
politician how the behave. So Rice was not completely at fault for her
actions.

I've learned that "Westerners" are more laxed in mannerisms, however
our professional mannerisms are different. Men do not cross their legs
during meetings and professional settings because, yes, it is rude. Women
from a young age learn to cross their legs in a closed V rather than a T shape
because it is a polite manner since long ago. So, it is a natural habit by them.
These manners have always been passed down through generations.

But this is my main point: We are only humans.

463 :A Person:2006/10/22(日) 13:15:06
>>459
Sorry, that wasn't directed towards me, but oh well.

464 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 13:18:37
>>458
America's relationship with other countries didn't start yesterday.
There has to be accumulated knowledge on deifferences in cultures and
manners for people in charge in US government.

Somehow, seeing Americans keep their legs crossed in formal setting
on TV always catch my eyes all the time and is annoying.

Probably Japanese politicians have done something rude while
traveling overseas, too.

Well I think I got my point across. Thanks for reading.


465 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/22(日) 13:21:13
Where I live, in the San Francisco Bay Area, an average 1 bedroom
apartment is around $1000 (i.e. 1100円), and a 2 bedroom around $1500.
Tokyo apartments struck me as cheap.

466 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/22(日) 13:22:55
er, 11万円 and 16.5万円, respectively. I can't do math in my head
when I get tired.

467 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 13:25:39
>>456
Quite often I think.


468 :A Person:2006/10/22(日) 13:27:09
>>464
Let me say that our politicians come into office just yesterday
compared to other nations. Here's a thing to consider, is it
only Americans that cross their legs in formal settings on TV?
Do you ever notice other people, like Europeans or whatever, showing
this behavior?

Since it is an international affair, how would you imagine Rice would
be conceived over here if your legs weren't crossed, now that you know
"Western lady mannerisms"?

Then there is mannerisms vs. the world affairs. If you were under high
stress and just became the Secretary of State after Colin Powell, would
you have the nerve to remember EVERY single minute detail of mannerisms?

These are things that I consider. I try to put myself in the shoes of the
person. Why do they do the things they do? Once in a while, people
must think outside of the box and consider the other side of the line.
What is it like to actually be a politician, a musician, a foreigner, an American,
etc.

Again, we are humans.

469 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 13:29:59
>>456
I said "quite often" but on the second thought, it might not often.
We don't hand shake as a casual greeting.
Maybe on important occasions.

470 :A Person:2006/10/22(日) 13:31:57
>>468
I'm sorry, but conceived should be perceived.

471 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 13:37:24
>>468
I have to admit my brain doesn't function well enough now after expressing
what I thought in English.
I wrote and read lots of Enlgish today and I'm in the mood for going outside and
breath a fresh air or something. I haven't eat lunch yet, too.

Let me respond to you later.

472 :A Person:2006/10/22(日) 13:40:27
>>471
Okay, it's fair enough. Let me correct one sentence here: "Since it is an international affair, how would you imagine Rice would
be conceived over here if your legs weren't crossed, now that you know
"Western lady mannerisms"? "
That sentence should read: "Since it is an international affair, how would you imagine Rice would
be perceived over here if her legs weren't crossed, now that you know
"Western lady mannerisms"? "

473 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/22(日) 13:40:40
conceived...like getting pregnant??

Well, I'm off to attend an English school.

474 :A Person:2006/10/22(日) 13:45:34
>>473
Hahaha, yeah. Bad mistake on my part, but I corrected it in >>472.
I was in the heat of the discussion, so my thinking and typing often
go in opposite directions.

475 :A Person:2006/10/22(日) 14:00:01
I'm off to bed. It's almost 1 AM here. That was a good discussion.

476 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 15:56:00
>>468
>Let me say that our politicians come into office just yesterday
>compared to other nations

That's not persuasive enough. There are dos and don'ts in terms
of ways of acting when meeting foreign people that has to be passed
down from administration to administration. As you said, government
officials or someone who are in charge of advising cultural differences
have to do their jobs properly.

>Since it is an international affair, how would you imagine Rice would
>be perceived over here if her legs weren't crossed, now that you know
>"Western lady mannerisms"?

In American culture where it's acceptable for a person to cross their
legs, I think it doesn't matter if they cross their legs or not.

Maybe some Europeans cross their legs in a formal settings, too.
Probably it's just that I have more chances to see Americans on TV.
I see Hollywood movie stars, musicians and politicians crossing their
legs in an interview on TV.

>Then there is mannerisms vs. the world affairs. If you were under high
>stress and just became the Secretary of State after Colin Powell, would
>you have the nerve to remember EVERY single minute detail of mannerisms?

I think you need to learn major cultural differences because if you act wrong,
you give bad impression. Crossing legs in a formal setting is not
a good idea as long as you are on the soil of Japan in my opinion.
Being under high stress is another issue.

477 :hyf270:2006/10/22(日) 15:56:07
>>344
Mostly I read BBS like 2ch, guides, and books. There aren't many classes...
And I live in a part of america that doesn't have many different people..
most people here are white and boring, not many europeans or asians or anything

Outside of college and expensive classes, there aren't many
options for actual instruction with a teacher

>>351
If you don't find it interesting, that's your problem.
Personally, I like a bit of diffuculty. I literally fall asleep in
my spanish class it's so dull.

>>353
In the state where I live [central US], it tends to be very hot and humid
during the summer; without much rain. In the winter, it tends
to be cold and windy, with a lot of snow and rain.
It's almost always really hot or really cold. Only about 3
or 4 weeks every year are a good tempurature for me

>>357
It's a case of chicken or egg. If we want to use metric, we have
to teach it, if we want to teach it, people are going to have to use it

it's not going to catch on much unless the US becomes a HUGE international
travel destination throughout, even moreso than it is now.

>>361
I read a book about Hiroshima, and what's it been like since the bomb,
but it was about 5 years ago. Most americans only know of Hiroshima and
Nagasaki as places we dropped nuclear bombs.

478 :hyf270:2006/10/22(日) 15:56:37
>>363
That's more of a christian problem than it is an american one.
Most christians don't deny science, just a few things about it.
Nowadays, most people accept most major scientific theories and laws,
except evolution.

>>367
Most cases of polygamy I hear of are in the Southwest, Utah I think

There is a religion (or maybe a cult...) that encourages people to
have many wives in that area. They also apperently use their kids...
from what i've seen on the news, it's sick, but then newspeople
exploit what actually happens to get popularity

>>375
Most americans think global warming is real, or at least possible.
American schools usually teach evolution, and at most they have
a sticker on them (like in Georgia) and the teachers say
"evolution is a theory, not a fact", etc.etc., but they don't
really care much.

Public school students are encouraged to say the pledge, but
if they don't want to, they don't have to. if anyone forces them,
they can sue them. My school doesn't even say it in the morning anymore.

In old times, yes, you had to take an oath, however they now
offer secular options instead if you wish.

>>380
Actually, the whole "In God We Trust" "One Nation Under God" stuff
is a cause of the cold war, it was added to seperate us from
"Godless" communism.

479 :476:2006/10/22(日) 15:56:56
Maybe it's just me but I am under the impression that Americans tend
not to change their attituds when outside of US, trying to push their way
of acting. I've heard American expats of multinational corporations
living overseas keep themselves in their American community and don't
try to mingle with local people.

In general, Americans tend not to make an effort to learn a foreign language.
You know this joke that goes like, a person who speaks two languages is called
bilingual, three, trilingual, four, quadlingual, then what do you call a
person who speak only one language? ....American.

It's a fact that I felt bad when I saw Rice crossing her legs when
she met Japanese counterpart in a formal setting.
That's all and I prefer that she didn't cross her legs.
No more no less.

Kind of tough to express my ideas in a foreign language.

Phewwww..

480 :hyf270:2006/10/22(日) 15:57:07
>>389
I think it's because a lot of americans like a story that will
make them so interested they have to keep watching, even if
they don't like it very much.

>>399
I appreciate your humour ^^

>>401
Well, personally, I don't think either of them
will be stupid enough to attack us
but I don't think we'll attack them either.
In a nuclear war, no one can win.

Overall, probably NK if you ask now, since they're what's "big" in the news

>>404
My school only offers french and spanish as regular classes
Although we can take a two session introductory course in
arabic/chinese language in the spring, it doesn't really do much.

>>405
Yeah, english is funny like that sometimes.
Like how "slow Up!" (typically british) and "Slow Down!" (usually american)
mean the same thing. Or how you Park your car on a Driveway, but you
Drive your car on a Parkway.



481 :hyf270:2006/10/22(日) 15:58:41
>>409
Basically, it was a show of power. the official excuse is that it was
to keep japan from trying to fight on, that it was to "save the lives
of american soilders"; but that's of course a load of shit,
since japan would probably have surrendered soon anyway.

>>417
gb2/b/ or i'll attack you with my >:3

>>421
It depends. Most university students in the US live at home if they
have a nearby school; otherwise they tend to get a dorm or apartment.

Over about 25, it's rare to live with family. My uncle (30 I think)
lives with my mom and I, and he has basically no social life.
He has never dated anyone, never had any friends, I don't think
he even talks to people over the internet.

Here, away from the cities anyway, housing isn't too expensive,
but in the areas where it is, I can understand people living with each other.
In the last town I lived in, you'd sometimes see immigrants with
three, four, even five families in the same tiny house, because
it's expensive!

>>432
Really? Where's that? I'm pretty sure where I am [KS], you can
move out as early as 16, as long as your parents say it's ok.

482 :hyf270:2006/10/22(日) 15:59:31
>>441
Well, music is hardly ever "correct"

If I HAD to change it, it would be:
Whenever I sang my songs
On the stage, on my own
Whenever I said my words
Wishing they would be heard
I saw you smiling at me

Basically, just adding "I", but leaving it out is just fine
The important part is that it *sounds* good. Like The Pillows,
most of their english songs range from "pretty off" to "WHAT THE HELL?"
But I still like them, 'cause it's good music, even if the lyrics are greek to me

[greek to me = I can't understand it at all,
it might as well be in another language]


483 :hyf270:2006/10/22(日) 16:00:44
>>447
Most people in the US don't like her much either, or at least we make fun of her
alot. Was she wearing a skirt? Many american women are used to crossing their legs
when wearing a skirt. Not to mention, she probably didn't know about the culture,
i've read a lot of things about japanese culture and never heard that one.
There are a lot of small things that people don't bother putting down in books,
or on the internet, that can be important like that ^^

As far as talk shows, I don't know, typically they all cross their legs in some
way. It's just a comfortable thing to do. I sit weird too, I usually have one
leg on the floor, and one leg resting on top of it, and them pulled close to me.
Like indian style if you know that, except without crossing them.
It's really comfortable for me, but not many people I know can do it.
I even sit like this in chairs, about the only time I keep my legs out are in cars,
and sometimes even then I curl them up.

>>452
well most american music (popular anyway, there's some good stuff, but not much)
is disgusting to your ears anyway ^^

>>473
Conceived is basically being created, or being thought up.
This includes 'conception', or when a sperm and an egg combine,
and a baby is on it's way ^^


484 :hyf270:2006/10/22(日) 16:03:16
>>479
Yes, many americans are inconsiderate of others.
I can't honestly say why, we just are. All I can ask is that
you not hate us too much, because there are a rare few of us
who actually do care, and do want to learn about others, so
don't shut us out!

------

Anyway, i'm sorry I haven't been replying lately.
I've been very busy with my schoolwork.
I have to make a report in 10 hrs too! and my eyes are sleepy ;_;

I'm going to take it off news, then i'm going to sleep a long time.

Thanks for reading 2ch, good night.

485 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 16:20:01
Praise be to Allah, who revealed the Book, controls the clouds, defeats factionalism,
and says in His Book: "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay
the pagans wherever ye find them, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for
them in every stratagem (of war)"; and peace be upon our Prophet, Muhammad
Bin-'Abdallah, who said: I have been sent with the sword between my hands to
ensure that no one but Allah is worshipped, Allah who put my livelihood under the
shadow of my spear and who inflicts humiliation and scorn on those who disobey my
orders.

486 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 16:20:59
The Arabian Peninsula has never -- since Allah made it flat, created its desert, and
encircled it with seas -- been stormed by any forces like the crusader armies spreading
in it like locusts, eating its riches and wiping out its plantations. All this is happening at
a time in which nations are attacking Muslims like people fighting over a plate of food.
In the light of the grave situation and the lack of support, we and you are obliged to
discuss current events, and we should all agree on how to settle the matter.

487 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 16:21:35
No one argues today about three facts that are known to everyone; we will list them,
in order to remind everyone:
First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in
the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers,
humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula
into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples.
If some people have in the past argued about the fact of the occupation, all the people
of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it. The best proof of this is the Americans'
continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post,
even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, but they
are helpless.

488 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 16:22:14
Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the
crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has
exceeded 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat
the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade
imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation.
So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim
neighbors.

489 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 16:22:47
Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is
also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem
and murder of Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq,
the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to fragment all the states of
the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and
through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation
of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula.

490 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 16:23:20
All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on
Allah, his messenger, and Muslims. And ulema have throughout Islamic history
unanimously agreed that the jihad is an individual duty if the enemy destroys the Muslim
countries. This was revealed by Imam Bin-Qadamah in "Al- Mughni," Imam al-Kisa'i in
"Al-Bada'i," al-Qurtubi in his interpretation, and the shaykh of al-Islam in his books,
where he said: "As for the fighting to repulse [an enemy], it is aimed at defending
sanctity and religion, and it is a duty as agreed [by the ulema]. Nothing is more sacred
than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life."

491 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 16:23:52
On that basis, and in compliance with Allah's order, we issue the following fatwa to all
Muslims:
The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an
individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible
to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from
their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated
and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty
Allah, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight
them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith
in Allah."

492 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 16:24:30
This is in addition to the words of Almighty Allah: "And why should ye not fight in
the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?
-- women and children, whose cry is: 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town, whose
people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will help!'"
We -- with Allah's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in Allah and wishes to be
rewarded to comply with Allah's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money
wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths,
and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters
allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn
a lesson.

493 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 16:25:29
Almighty Allah said: "O ye who believe, give your response to Allah and His Apostle,
when He calleth you to that which will give you life. And know that Allah cometh
between a man and his heart, and that it is He to whom ye shall all be gathered."
Almighty Allah also says: "O ye who believe, what is the matter with you, that when
ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling so heavily to the earth! Do ye
prefer the life of this world to the hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as
compared with the hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous
penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For
Allah hath power over all things."
Almighty Allah also says: "So lose no heart, nor fall into despair. For ye must gain
mastery if ye are true in faith."

494 :476:2006/10/22(日) 16:26:05
hyf270, don't get me worng.
I am not smearing her personality. Good luck on your study.

What does gb2/b/ mean? When you get to have free time, please tell me.


495 :hyf270:2006/10/22(日) 16:32:21
>>494
gb2/*/
is a popular meme on 4chan; it means "Go back to *".

Usually, "gaia", referring to another popular site, is used, although
lately anything is becoming fodder. /b/ is a forum on 4chan, and probably
one of the weirdest places on the internet; and so telling people to
"gb2/b/" means "Go back to /b/"

It's just an internet joke, which will not really come up at all in normal english.

496 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 16:55:19
>>495
Oh. Thank you. Now I understand.

Now gb2 /your study/ :D

497 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 16:58:32
>>493
I agree.
Jihad is absolutely up to each indivisual, and not something you are forced to do.
America is forcing democrasy to Muslims. That's bad.

498 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 17:37:14
>>485 - >>493

Get a job and give the Internet a rest.

499 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 17:59:28
long sentences in english arent read

500 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/22(日) 22:10:29
>>481 Hello, hyf270

Like your uncle, there seem to be some people in the U.S. who still live with
their family over 25, but the number is small and they seem considered
to be strange.

The difference seems to be the number and the way people look at it.
There are plenty of people over 25 still live with their parents
and they are not considered weired at all.

501 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/22(日) 22:16:09
Same things can be said about shy people or meek people.
There are a certain number of shy or meek people in the U.S. who
would like to change and awkward or something...Tell me if I am wrong.

It seems perfectly all right to be shy (or meek) here. Isn't it
a big cultural difference?

502 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/22(日) 22:19:51
I happened to see Rice with Abe on TV (recorded) today. She wore a pair of pants, smiling
and she seemed very accommodating.

503 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 22:30:07
Rice is nice.

I am a mster of rhyme. Maybe I can be a rapper.

504 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/22(日) 22:34:50
Rice likes spice.

I am a mster of rhyme. Maybe I can be a rapper.

505 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/22(日) 22:42:22
What about "Rice likes lice?"

Yeah, I know. It's horrible, isn't it?


506 :A Person:2006/10/22(日) 23:24:51
Not once did the topic of: "Her political advisors are the ones to blame
because they didn't do their job and tell Rice how to act accordingly to
Japanese custom." That can be said as to any politician or business person
that goes to Japan, their job is to make a deal, the advisor's job is to
tell them how to act. If you want to see a prime example of this, the NBC show
"The West Wing" shows how it goes for the most part.

Then, government advisors do change from administration to administration. If the
previous administration does not like the new one, then nothing is really handed down
in information. So, you are starting with a clean slate where everybody is pretty much
new at the job.

I am not saying it is not wrong to be ignorant of others' customs, but what I am saying is give a little slack.
Sure first impressions mean everything, but just remember that the concept that the person within finishes the deal.
Plus, admittedly, Rice is trying her best to keep the world community safe. Here we see a woman trying with all her might
to keep the peace in Asia with the threat of N. Korea. Rather than bag down on her, I'd admire her actions to actually go
to the regions and make talks. I admire people that take action, and sometimes that is what really matters. The person on the
inside, not what you see on the outside. Sure that's overused as an expression, but it is true.

Apart from politics, then I say, if an American businessman, politician, or an ordinary person
seeks to live/work/visit in Japan, then so be it they should know the customs because it is only one other set of
mannerisms. But the thing is, you guys have to correct us Americans overseas. If you see one of us Americans
doing something wrong in manners, then correct us politely.

507 :A Person:2006/10/22(日) 23:34:24
My brain hurts from all that thinking, I'm just going to say
I agree.

Wait, I actually have a question about table manners in Japan.
As a Chinese, I know it's okay to slurp noodles and soup in Chinese
manners, but American manners don't allow it. How is it over in Japan?
I'm actually curious about Japanese table manners so anything is fine.

508 :英語に関する情報交換と学問的な議論の場所です:2006/10/23(月) 00:12:18
□ English板は、英語に関する情報交換と学問的な議論の場所です。
□ 投稿する前によく読みましょう-「2ちゃんねる初心者のためのページ」も参考にしてください。
 ▽新規スレッドを立てる前に、重複スレッドがないか、「スレッド一覧」でご確認しましょう。
  ・検索方法は、ブラウザの「Ctrl + F」(Windows)・「コマンド゙ + F」(Mac)。

□ お約束 (ローカルルール)
 ▽書き込む前に「2ちゃんねるガイド」を読み、2ちゃんねるのルールを確認しましょう。
 ▽「単発的な質問」や「既存のスレッドと似た内容」で新規スレッドを立てるのはやめよう。
  ・検索や過去ログを活用してね。

Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 68
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1161348037/l50
English Monologue(英語で独り言) PART I
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1119087516/l50
Hey Native speakers! Come and help us!
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1089696504/l50
Debate in English (英語で討論)
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1121077647/l50
Dirty Talk in English (英語で猥談)
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1121001818/l50
∵Dear ☆英語で日記を書こうU☆ Diary∵
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1059537921/l50
【真剣】「絶対」英語ONLY【真剣】
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1032157726/l50
英語でレスすると英語力がアップする魔法のスレ
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1029671267/l50
英語で今日の気分を表現するスレ
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1050025795/l50

509 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/23(月) 01:46:01
japanese wont read long sentences in english
japanese are not interested in long sentences in english

510 :7fds8:2006/10/23(月) 03:42:54
>>509
You probably shouldn't generalize that to Japanese people only.
I find even native English speakers are sometimes not
interested in long sentences in English.

"Good things, when short, are twice as good."
~Baltasar Gracian, The Art of Worldly Wisdom

511 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/23(月) 04:08:48
What's the deal?

512 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/23(月) 06:25:38
>>503
You can be the next PaRappa the Rapper!

513 :A Person:2006/10/23(月) 07:10:29
I'm sort of confused with the matter here. What's going on?

514 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/23(月) 07:49:56
>>513
I suspect the 2ch equivalent of /b/tards are here.
   /⌒ヽ
  / ´_ゝ`)   . . .
  |    /
  | /| |
  // | |
 U  .U

515 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/23(月) 11:34:56
    |┃三 
    |┃  ____
    |┃/⌒  ⌒\
    |┃(●)  (●) \ 
――‐.|┃:⌒(__人__)⌒:::::\   Hello all !
    |┃  |r┬-|     |⌒)  I'm here !
    |┃   `ー'ォ     //
    (⌒ヽ・    ・ ̄ /
    |┃ノ       /
    |┃   つ   <
    |┃  (::)(::)   ヽ
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516 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/23(月) 16:11:37
Find your guiding inspiration
In a place where dreams are made
with a lifetime's preparation
It's no time to be afraid

517 :kazuchiyo:2006/10/23(月) 18:50:26
>>514

there are more /b/tards on 2chan in general, I think.

518 :476:2006/10/23(月) 20:17:47
>>507
That was a good discussion to me. Thank you.
Getting my thoughts organized and putting my thoughts together to write
something persuasive in English was a good trainig to me.

Slurping noodles is considered to be OK here In Japan. Some people go
as far as to say that the sound of slurping makes noodles more appetizing.
Personally, I don't like to make the slurping sound when I eat noodles
because too much sound of slurping is annoying to me. I eat noodles trying
not to make the annoying sounds but it's difficult for me not to make
slurping sounds at all and end up making a little sound.

As for slurping soup, I don't think it's acceptable here.
But in reality, some people makes slurping sound and I don't want to
have dinner or lunch or whatever with them. Maybe the kind of people
who go to fancy restaurant never make the sound at all.
I think it largely depends onhow you are raised by your parents.

519 :476:2006/10/23(月) 20:18:17
Compared to the types of soup you drink with a spoon, when you drink
soup without a spoon such as Miso soup and you bring your bowl of the
soup to your mouth and drink it directly from the bowl, it's considered
kind of acceptable, I think.

But again, personally, I hate the slurping sound even when drinking
Miso soup so I try not to make the sound. I think people who don't
make slurping sounds when they drink soup with a spoon don't make
annoying sound when they drink Miso soup,either.

Were you raised in a family where Chinse eating habits are still alive?
Like, you celebrate a new year on the lunar calendar and have special dinner
and all?

>>508
Wow. I din't know so many threads where you are supposed to post in
English. Seems like few of them are busy though.


520 :A Person:2006/10/23(月) 20:30:23
>>519
Thanks. Actually, come to think of it, we never slurp our soup. But out
of habit because we are a Chinese family we do slurp our noodles. I'm
I little more tamed about it though. Outside of the house I don't slurp
anything. We don't really celebrate the Chinese New Year, but we do have
large family gatherings and dinner at Christmas time.

521 :英語に関する情報交換と学問的な議論の場所です:2006/10/23(月) 20:32:05
□ English板は、英語に関する情報交換と学問的な議論の場所です。
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Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 68
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1161348037/l50
English Monologue(英語で独り言) PART I
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1119087516/l50
Hey Native speakers! Come and help us!
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1089696504/l50
Debate in English (英語で討論)
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1121077647/l50
Dirty Talk in English (英語で猥談)
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1121001818/l50
∵Dear ☆英語で日記を書こうU☆ Diary∵
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1059537921/l50
【真剣】「絶対」英語ONLY【真剣】
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1032157726/l50
英語でレスすると英語力がアップする魔法のスレ
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1029671267/l50
英語で今日の気分を表現するスレ
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1050025795/l50

522 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/23(月) 20:35:54
please tell me country with many beautiful women.

523 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/23(月) 22:58:13
>>507
475's main concern seems "slurping," which is explained well enough, so
I might talk about how to use chopsticks.

There are a few "don'ts,"
(1) Don't nibble your chopsticks.
(2) Don't stick food with your chopsticks...We tend to do that though,
when we eat sticky potatoes called "satoimo."
(3) Don't use chopsticks when you get food served by somebody using chopsticks.

Hmmm...I wonder if they all make sense. I hope they do.

524 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/23(月) 22:59:19
>>520
Thank you for your respnse. You don't celebrate Chinese New Year.
I don't know but I guess in China town in California, they still celebarate it.

There might be a possibility that this thread will be deleted soon.

>>508 >>521 are probably posted by a person in charge of taking care of
English forum of 2ch.
Let me explain you guys what >>508 >>521 means.
They say there are some similar threads already before this thread was
made. So what they means is that this thread shouldn't have been made.
They warn that you should check if similar thread has been already
made before you make a new thread.

From my 2ch experiense so far, even after these posts by a person
in charge are made, some threads weren't deleted and others were.

I have a suggestion. If this thread is deleted why don't we move to
recommended thread by them.

Hey Native speakers! Come and help us!
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1089696504/l50

or http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1144647075/
which is not included as recommended threads in 508 and 521.

or

Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 68
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1161348037/l50
is good, too but it is just for chatting and seems like it is not
for Q and A.

525 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/23(月) 23:06:01
I don't know much about 2ch but it seems that there are several
threads for NOVA(franchised English conversation schools in Japan)
and none of them has ever been deleted.
Why do you think that is?

526 :A Person:2006/10/23(月) 23:09:13
>>524
I'll move over to the Hey Native speakers! Come help us! thread. I'm
also in the Info-Exchange thread as well.

527 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/23(月) 23:34:13
>>525
I don't know why. Maybe perosns in charge themselves are learning
Englsh in NOVA? hehe

>>526
Sarah already took a peek at the thread.
I know you are in Info-Exchange thread. I have asked questions there.
Thanks for your answers.

I don't know what they'll do with this thread but as long as this thread
isn't deleted I'll keep checking this thread.
hyf270 would be dissapinted if all people are gone.

528 :A Person:2006/10/24(火) 01:08:02
>>527
He'll be able to find us. It is especially obvious since I'm always "A Person".
I looked in the other thread and it didn't look at discussion oriented as it is
here, but we can always change that.

529 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 01:18:06
there is no they watching threads LOL
Just a bored guy who likes meddling.
Don7t worry
you guys are so 2ch-naive

530 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 01:39:01
keep going

531 :A Person:2006/10/24(火) 01:54:51
>>529
Eh, you never know.

532 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 01:59:38
>>529

Just mind your oan bisness!

533 :AMERICA-JIN ◆9kbJjvwmwE :2006/10/24(火) 02:15:05
HELLO CHANNEL 2 OF JAPAN I COME FROM AMERICA!

HOW ARE YOU TODAY?

CAPS LOCK IS AWESOME, NO?

534 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 02:27:37
Today? It's just begun.

535 :AMERICA-JIN ◆9kbJjvwmwE :2006/10/24(火) 02:31:45
>>534

Interesting.

It appears that Japan and the United States are in different time zones.

536 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 03:37:51
アメリカのコンドームってガバガバで質が悪いって本当ですか?

537 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 04:07:32
なんですぐセックスの話にもっていきたがるん

538 :keiko ◆y/jU0OiBZs :2006/10/24(火) 04:11:22
お前のチンコが小さ過ぎるだけです><
ありがとうございました!

539 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 10:05:11
Sarah- What made you interested in science and doing research? Any role-models?
Just curious.

540 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 10:14:50
American condom is too thick.

541 :hyf270:2006/10/24(火) 12:43:39
Hey guys, sorry I haven't been around.
schoolwork, and I spent today with a good old friend.


If you have any questions, feel free to ask, since I don't see anything
I need to answer right now.

542 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/24(火) 16:48:47
>>539
:) Research is just something I like! It's the most important part.
Research is what will get our race further, isn't it? I mean, forcasting
weather keeps us alive, but understanding it is what gives us better
means of staying safe, yes?

As for role-models, I'd have to say...
James Burke! He's a historian, and back in the mid-90s, he had a show
called "Connections" that really got me interested in learning. As for
weather, I've been sort of obsessed with the weather since I was about 7
years old.

What are you interested in? :) Any role-models for you?

(A role model that I've gained recently that didn't influence my
childhood would be Carl Sagan; he's very interesting to listen to. If
you want, I can link some of the videos he had made during the late 70s.)


543 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 19:26:31
sarah always skips school

544 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/24(火) 20:22:48
>>543
I don't skip school; I'm not in school anymore. :)
I'm actually a shut-in right now, but that does sound bad. Social
anxiety isn't exactly uncommon, though.



545 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 20:39:05
What does G in G-Unit stand for? I'm talking about 50 cent's group.

Gangstar?

546 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 21:40:46
Guerilla Unit

547 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 21:52:56
>>537
生物だからだよ。
チミのお父さんとお母さんもファックルしたから、今チミがオナーニしてるんじゃないか!




548 :A Person:2006/10/24(火) 22:47:02
>>544
My friend has social anxiety in the form of depression. I sort of have it
to and don't feel comfortable in groups of people I don't know, but
I try to get over it. You aren't in college, yet, are you?

549 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/24(火) 23:13:29
>>548
No, not yet.
I feel very uncomfortable going outside, so I tend to stay
inside. I don't like it. I like being outside, but I still feel
uncomfortable when I go outside. It's mostly annoying :(

Then I get anxiety and it causes me to not be able to sleep
(which is why I'm up all night a lot). I have yet to find a
psychiatrist for this area.

It's part of the reason I'm not in school now. Hopefully it
won't cause me to delay and have problems when I do start
college courses soon. That would be beyond frustrating :(

550 :A Person:2006/10/24(火) 23:16:53
>>549
I've heard about that type of anxiety before. It's really particular.
I wonder what's making it happen? What exactly do you mean by going
"outside", though? Like to the mall, school, or town. Or is it just
when you step out of your house?

551 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/24(火) 23:19:30
>>550
Even outside of my house, to be honest. I go outside sometimes
to ride my bike, but I don't know this area at all, so it's very
rare.

It would be easier for me to get out if I had a car or knew
anyone here, but I don't know anyone here (save for my parents,
but I don't think they count).

Mostly, it happens when I have to deal with people. I like
people though, so it's frustrating. :(

552 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 23:21:40
>>551
you are hikikomori?
me too

553 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/24(火) 23:24:08
>>552
Hikikomori is really only reserved for Japanese culture though,
isn't it?

I guess I'm an American Hikikomori then. I've been out of school
since last December, and out of a job since early March.

554 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 23:26:44
Wellcome neet

555 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 23:27:58
>>553 It isn't really.

556 :A Person:2006/10/24(火) 23:30:10
>>551
Do you see anybody around your age around where you live? I'd try
talking to them. Sure it's frustrating right now, but sometimes things
get better if you try. That's what I'm trying to do here in college. Sure
it's slow, but I'm making friends.

557 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/24(火) 23:30:15
>>555
Ohh, I was under the impression that it was caused by some sort of
"inablity to adapt" to Japanese culture. American and Japanese
culture is very different though, so I would see it as something
similiar, but not the same.

Either way, I would rather not be a shut-in, NEET, hermit,
hikikomori, any of them. :(

558 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 23:30:22
Would you paraphrase this?

i just want to clear something i am not stupid and it is you who kickass so grow the **** up

559 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/24(火) 23:32:00
>>556
Well, I just moved here (to Montgomery, Alabama. REAL deep
south) a couple of weeks ago. My parents work and I don't have a
car (or permit/licence) so there's not really anywhere I can go.
I don't really see anyone around my age at all. My neighbors
are all retired.

Right now, I'm basically just waiting until February when I
turn 18. Atleast then I'll be able to get a job easier.

560 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/24(火) 23:35:33
>>558
That looks like it contradicts itself though.

:(? It's saying "grow up" while also saying "It's you who kicks
ass"
That doesn't make any sense.

561 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/24(火) 23:43:39
>>560
This is the site where I picked up the sentences.
Still don't understand?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AoBXcVO1FlTKB58KPmPlEYzsy6IX?qid=20061023100434AAO0hHP

562 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 00:34:08
>>546
Thanks.

>>549 and other comments posted by you kind of surprised me.
I've just known what you are just by exchanging messages here and there
in 2ch but you seem like a friendly, people-loving girl. So I thought
not only on the Net but also in your real life you are having a good time.

I know that you know keeping yourself only inside the virtual world on the
Net is a bad idea. I hope you find something that makes you lead in the
good direction soon. Just taking for a walk to expose yourself in
sunshine or doing some exercise might help.

Sorry if I sound judgemental.

563 :A Person:2006/10/25(水) 01:46:17
>>559
I can see why it is really hard to adapt. But, >>562 does bring up a good
suggestion. I think if you just walk around outside and look at the scenery
then you might feel better. I wasn't too comfortable here at college and I
just took short walks to relax and loosen up tension. It's worth a try.

564 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 01:48:43
サラはアメリカン引き篭もりだった━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━ッ!!
アメリカ人のくせに引き篭もりとかテラキモスwwww

565 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 01:52:11
sarah you have difficulty with interpersonal relationship
You look like japanese

566 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 05:18:15
>>564
そうですよ....
でも,サラじゃない
なまえわセイラですよね

I don't know Japanese minus kana/a few words. But, my name is
pronounced "sei-ra" not "sa-ra." I tried!

Feel free to tell me if I'm completely incorrect in what I said. I
could use learning SOMEDAY. :(

567 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 05:19:41
>>565
I don't look Japanese :)
Many people have trouble with interpersonal relationships, though.

568 :558:2006/10/25(水) 09:03:56
I think she omitted periods.
The sentence should be like this.

i just want to clear something. i am not stupid and it is you who kickass.
so grow the **** up.

What is the "kickass"? Is **** fuck or something like that?

569 :A Person:2006/10/25(水) 09:13:21
>>568
Okay, the person that originally typed that was first of all an idiot.

What they wanted to say is this:
"I just want to clear something (up). I am not stupid, and it is you who
is a jackass, so grow the (fuck) up."

She is stupid because "kickass" means something good. Like when you
score well on a test, you'd say "kickass". Evidentally, she did not know
that or just was an idiot when posting that.

In general context, she will never get a point across without seeming
intelligent on the internet. Punctuation and right usage is key to making
a point.

570 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 09:37:52
>>569
Now I see what she wanted to say. Thank you!

571 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 13:52:11
I have a question, Are there some nightclub or disco in U.S.A?
What kind of people usually go there?, what are they looking forward to go
such a place?
Are most of them bitchs?

572 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 14:03:16
>>571
There are nightclubs and bars that people go to to drink/dance
and hook up with people. Do you know what "hook up" means?

I'm too young to have gone to one, but I don't really like
dancing too much, but I would go to a bar. My sister (she's 22)
has gone to a nightclub a couple of times, but mostly just to
spend time with friends and have a couple of drinks and dance.

Not everyone who goes to one goes to meet up with someone to
have sex with.

I wouldn't call them bitches just because they go to a nightclub.


573 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 14:28:39
thank you.
"hook up"?, Did you mean "pick up a girl" ?
So, some people looking forward to have a sex into such a club?

574 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 14:39:41
>>573
Well, "pick up a girl," "pick up a guy," depending on gender,
basically.
And not have sex IN the club, obviously. It's basically just a
place to play around and meet new people and have a good time,
and sometimes, that leads to someone to have sex with.

575 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 14:50:30
>>574
okay, I could understand. thanks
so I have a american gf in USA. But I live in Japan now.
I often worry about her.. because she often go to nightclub or disco paticular
weekend..

576 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 14:51:12
So you don't fuck in a club.
That's a shame.
I' waslooking forward to seeing some hard fuck in real.

577 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 14:57:48
>>575
Well, not everyone goes to pick up someone.
Many people go just to have fun with friends.

>>576
Haha, I just meant that you don't have sex while you're in the
club. You go somewhere else!
Why would you want to "see hard fuck" instead of just having
sex with someone instead?
Are you a voyeur?

578 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 15:21:13
sarah doesnt go outside
sarah doesnt exercise
so sarah gets fat
now sarah weighs 100kg

579 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 15:27:03
>>577
Because the sex between whites or blacks or a white and a black is superior to the sex between yellows.
I want see it in person.

580 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 15:31:50
>>587
Actually, I weigh about 120lb! (54kg). But, I'm also 5'6"
(167cm). I could use losing weight though...

>>579
I don't know, I have always kind of liked asian guys.

What you're forgetting is that in America, many people are fat.
Do you really want to see fat people having sex? ;)


581 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 15:34:52
>>580
Fat sex is funny. Watching all the fat move is very hypnotic.
You could meditate under a fat chick like how some people meditate
under waterfalls.

I've seen women who weigh over 200kg. If they fell over on a small
child, they would kill them!

582 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 15:39:48
Wow. 200kg is 440lbs. I don't think I've seen a woman that fat.

583 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 15:43:19
>>582
I have, but very rarely.
Most of the fat people around here (large abundance here in the
south), are usually around 250~ or so. I feel like I'm not
skinny enough sometimes, and then I see those people and feel
skinny again. But, that sounds kind of bad.

:(

584 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 15:46:01
< Actually, I weigh about 120lb! (54kg). But, I'm also 5'6"
(167cm). I could use losing weight though...


hot body


585 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 15:49:01
>>583
Don't feel bad. 120lb isn't bad if you're 5'6''.

According to this weight chart, you're not fat even if you have
a small frame.

http://www.healthchecksystems.com/heightweightchart.htm

586 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 15:53:30
>>585
I know I know, but most people will never be happy with their
weight no matter if the weight is a good weight for them or not.

>>584
Haha, you would to have measurements before thinking that.

587 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 15:55:27
white girl like big giant black dick?

588 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 16:07:41
>>587
I've never been too into black guys. I kind of like black guys
who have dreads though.
Ability to use it is more important than the size!

589 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:09:08
Sarah is a racist.
So don't ask her that kind of questions.

590 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 16:11:51
>>589
:( I'm not a racist.

591 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:14:41
>>589
So, you'd suck some cock just so you wouldn't be called racist?
I hope you come to my country soon :) !

592 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:15:33
sarah is angry

593 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:16:26
>>592
No, sarah is American

594 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 16:18:57
>>593
And Americans are angry?

595 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:21:50
>>594
Of course they are! They have George Bush for a President and the
restriction for drinking alcohol is 21 years. No wonder they are
so angry.

596 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 16:23:59
>>595
Secret: Most people don't follow that restriction.
I have drank enough times without being 21.

Another secret: Bush's popularity rating is pretty low right now.

I'm not angry!

597 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:25:00
>>216
Do you know why sky is blue?


598 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:25:33
how much is sarah's tits?

599 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:26:27
>>596
Yes you are! You're seething with primal rage!

600 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:27:52
>>598
How much? Is she selling her breasts? Is it a "Buy one, get one free"
deal?

601 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:31:08
poor americans.
even the leader of the country don't know how to eat bagels.

602 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:32:15
Sarah has only one tit.
She has a ball instead.

603 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:34:00
>>602
Have you ever slammed the car door on your own balls?
I think it would be hilarious to watch, but very painful if it
was you ;_;.

604 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:35:26
Have you ever slammed the car door on your own balls?   

What kind of situation is this?
How is this possible?

605 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:36:52
what is the size of sarah's tits?

606 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:36:59
While playing a video game, I saw the word 幻獣. It isn't in dictionaries,
but I assume the reading is げんじゅう and it means "phantom creature".
Is that right?

607 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:37:58
>>604
I don't know... a guy could be drunk, or just stupid.

608 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:38:19
Sarah is a middle-aged pervert who pretends to be an all american girl.
You guys should'nt be falling for taht.

609 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:39:28
Conan O'brien !!!!

610 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:40:21
>>609
Well, that explains why I'm NOT laughing

611 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:43:05
In America, to live with flatmate is natural for young students?
is it often develop to sex frined?

612 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:43:10
Conan O’brien is the one who closed
the door on his balls?

613 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:43:56
>>sarah
what is your hair color and eyes color?

blond and blue eyes girl is so popular in america?

614 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:44:46
>>611
There is no such thing as a ”flatmate”
in America. We say ”roommate”.

615 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:46:57
>>611
Isn't that what they do in American colleges?

>>612
Well, it would be pretty funny if he did. The car should start
driving off just to make make it hurt more.

>>614
European countries and some other western countries have flatmates.

616 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:48:36
Japanese boy's longing is blond girl with blue eyes.

617 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:50:17
>>616
Other countries have girls with blonde hair and blue eyes. In Northern
Europe, the UK, Ireland, and Australia, they have girls with
blonde hair and blue eyes.
Look for beautiful girls around the world, not just in America ;).

618 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:51:51
I think there are many girls who have a blond hair and blue eyes in Germany.


619 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:53:00
But you wanna go for the best of the crop, right?
America is the bully of the world.
I wanna fuck the bully.

620 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 16:55:18
Do Westerners also like girls with blonde hair and blue eyes better than the others?

621 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:00:06
Ranking of beautuful girl country.

Germany,Austria,Switzerland,Denmark>Holland,U.K,Sweden,Finland,Norway
>Italy, Spain> Poland,Russia> USA .....

>>Japan(Garbage)>>Southeast Asian coutries(Less than garbage)

622 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:01:11
>>620
It depends. I like girls if they're cute or hot. A lot of blonde hair
and blue eyed girls are trailer trash.

623 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:03:14
>>621
How the hell do Switzerland girls and spanish girls get a better rank than russian girls?

624 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:03:52
Why American make a fool of blond girl?
jealousy?

625 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:04:42
>>622
What is the difference between cute and hot??
Aren't cute girls hot?
Aren't hot girls cute?

626 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:05:45
>>623
How do you think that is?

627 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:05:46
Germanic girl is most beautiful in the world!

628 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:06:06
>>625
I guess so.
I should have said beautiful instead of hot. Some girls are hot
without being cute, but very, very few.

629 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:06:57
I heard that Americans like Japanese children because they think black hair and
black eyes are cute.

Is that true?

630 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:08:02
big 3 special product place of a beautiful woman in europe is


G e r m a n y

A u s t r i a

D e n m a r k

631 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:08:17
>>626
There are some spanish, italian and southern european people.
They're women aren't very good looking.
Russian girls are gymnasts!

632 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:08:20
Which do you like better, hot girls or cool girls?

633 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:10:55
Some girls are hot without being cute??
Like who?
Could you name some celebrities who fit the description?

634 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:11:47
>>631
Russian girl is not beautiful
German girl is best!

635 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:12:32
Russian girls are gymnasts!  ←LOL

636 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:13:33
>>633
No celebrities are hot.
They are on TV so we can laugh at them.

Haven't you ever seen a beautiful woman or girl who isn't cute?
She has dark eyes, long hair, soft features. She isn't outgoing
or have childish features like a cute girl has.

637 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:13:34
I love Avril Lavigne. She is Canadian. Hence, the Canadian girls are the best.

638 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:15:52
"Hot" means sexually attractive. It's hard to describe what "cute" is.
Animals, kids, and other things can be "cute" without being sexually
attractive, though...

639 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:17:01
Is muscle boy in favor with American girls ?

640 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:19:30
Americans are so serious.
They like to explain things.

641 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:25:56
Asian girl is really ugly.

642 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:35:36
>>641
What about Julie Chen?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/Juliechen.jpg

643 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 17:38:25
Asian-American girls are really ugly.
Pure Asian girls are beautiful.

644 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 18:01:57
>>606
Both your pronunciation and translation are right.

645 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 18:05:51
>>642
She is not beautiful.

646 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 18:33:28
>>644
Thanks.
I have another question. How is 来おった pronounced? It's something
an old man said. Old people always talk differently in Japanese
video games...

647 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 18:57:32
Dont worry

white girls are not interested in yellow monkeys

648 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 18:58:36
Some are. You shouldn't generalise.

649 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 19:12:52
>>647
(´;ω;`)

650 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 19:15:08
I wonder why all people aren't white. Why are there other skin
colors?

651 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 19:19:14
>>650
we are yellow monkey after all・・・
We have to worship white girl・・・

652 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 19:46:03
>>646
It's きおった。

It means 来た=きた(came), it is the past tense of 来る=くる(come)
In standard Japanese, (when I say "standard" I mean it's Japanese
spoken in Tokyo area) 来る(くる)is present tense and 来た is past
tense.

>Old people always talk differently in Japanese video games...

Yeah, other than video games, such as in anime, old people talk differently,
I mean, they talk in thier dialects. By making them speak in their dialect,
the producer of video games or anime emphaise they are old, I think.

I am not saying young people doesn't talk in a dialect used in their region
anymore. They do. But dialects used by old people sometimes doesn't used
by young people anymore.

This thread might be helpful when you have a question about Japanese.
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1144647075/l50

653 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 20:09:24
>>652
Thanks again. I couldn't find it in a dictionary, so I had to ask to be sure.
In American video games and cartoons, there are really no differences between
old people and young people's speech other than minor vocabulary differences,
I suppose... For example, young people sometimes use slang that old people wouldn't use,
and old people might use outdated words.

I will use that thread if I have any more questions.

654 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 20:25:54
>>653
No problem.

655 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 20:26:13
>>653
You are welcome.

656 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 20:28:12
Why did I get asked stupid questions when I was in America?

657 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 21:20:27
>>613
Brown hair/brown eyes. My hair is currently dyed reddish-brown with
gold streaks, though.

>>641
Many guys here would disagree with you! I've met a ton of guys who
love asian girls.

>>656
Such as?

658 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:24:13
Did you go to school by radio? Did you have kangaroos in your backyard? Have you ever ridden in a kangaroo's pouch? How long did it take you to learn English?

659 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:27:01
I think some western boy like Asian girl.
But there are no white girl who like Asian boy.

660 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:28:14
I'm a white girl that likes Asian boys.

661 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:30:34
I'm a white woman who hates Asian people.

662 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 21:32:43
>>660
I know lots of girls who like asian boys.
Many of them are kind of otaku-ish, or like me who is kind of
hikikomori-ish.
I won't lie; I do like skinny asian guys who wear glasses.
Actually, I just like skinny guys who wear glasses, no matter
the race.

>>658
You're Australian?
Hahaha, I wouldn't think anyone would ask questions as stupid
as that. Maybe "HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A KANGAROO??? A KOALA??
DID YOU KNOW STEVE IRWIN???" but wow, that's astounding.

663 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:33:00
Don't give us that PC crap.
Be honest and say Asians are ugly.

664 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:35:17
That's because you're old and bitter.

665 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:35:34
>Many of them are kind of otaku-ish, or like me who is kind of
hikikomori-ish
>Many of them are kind of otaku-ish, or like me who is kind of
hikikomori-ish
>Many of them are kind of otaku-ish, or like me who is kind of
hikikomori-ish

(´;ω;`)こんなのしかにもてない日本男児

666 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 21:35:50
>>663
But to me, Asians aren't ugly. Well, I mean, there are some
ugly asian people (it would be odd if they were all pretty), but
it's not --
wait, "PC crap?"

667 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:37:14
>>662 Well I was asked those questions. I'm sure I would have been asked about Steve Irwin except he became famous after I left America.

668 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 21:37:59
>>665
Mm, can you explain that to me? I got "Japanese" and "boy" but
past that I was confused. :(

669 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 21:38:33
>>667
Wow, that would've been years ago. How long ago?

670 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:38:47
Japanese girl like white guy, they do not mind if they are economic loser.

671 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:40:00
>>668
so, normal American girl is not interested in Japanese boy?
otaku-ish,hikikomori-ish..... ><

672 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:40:55
>>669
It was 11 years ago.

673 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:41:19
Commonly American girl like muscular boy?

674 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 21:43:28
>>671
Well, as there are many "otaku"-ish American girls (since
anime is something fairly widespread now), it's not that weird.
There are some normal American girls who like asian guys,
just not as many, I guess.

>>672
Wow, that is a long time ago.

>>673
Many do, but not all.

675 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:45:44
Do you think Japanese male is nafative for love?
Because Japanese seldom kiss and hug.

676 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:47:17
I'm a normal girl, but I'm not American.

I was in America 9 years ago.

677 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:48:12
>>673 I don't like muscular guys.

678 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 21:52:18
Many American girl like black guy?

679 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/25(水) 22:03:36
>>678
Well, black girls, yes. Most white girls I've seen that like
black guys, tend to be overweight and trashy.

But I'm generalizing.

680 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 22:05:10
What do you mean by "trashy"?
Like trash?

681 :A Person:2006/10/25(水) 22:08:47
>>680
"Trashy" like slutty/ugly. The kind that makes you puke whenever you see
them.

682 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 22:10:23
>>681
Thank you for the help.
You are God-sent.

683 :A Person:2006/10/25(水) 22:12:38
You're quite welcome.

684 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 22:14:28
I want an American lover, amerian girl like what kind of guy?

685 : ◆gFIdoOIh.U :2006/10/25(水) 22:16:04
Don't be so cruel to over-weight girls who just want to have fun.

686 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 22:16:17
americans love rap music,
so almost all white girls fall in love with black guys automatically.
and they are adicted to beautiful big dick gradually.

687 :A Person:2006/10/25(水) 22:16:36
>>684
Sarah is going to have to tell you. I'll probably get everything
wrong.

688 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 22:19:27
Are black dicks superior to white dicks in general?

689 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 22:24:26
I hate hiphop.

690 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 22:27:10
I really dislike black guy, I want to hit them by martial arts.

691 :A Person:2006/10/25(水) 22:27:11
>>689
I dislike hiphop, but I am tolerant of it under certain circumstances.

692 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 22:28:48
>>691
What kind of music do you like then?

693 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 22:31:57
>>692
I like Enka.
I'm a fan of Hibari Misora.
Her voice is really soothing.

694 :A Person:2006/10/25(水) 22:33:12
I like rock, classic rock, industrial, techno, classical, and heavy metal.

695 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 22:33:13
The girl who go to nightclub everynight is bitch?

696 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/25(水) 22:40:52
>>693
Good. She's still popular among elder women.
>>694
OK. Do you like Offspring? I love them. Their song is palyed on Nissan's (car manufacturer)
CF here now. "Can't get my head around you" is the title.
Are the not popular anymore in US?

Tell me your three most favorite bands.

697 :A Person:2006/10/25(水) 23:27:47
>>696
I like Offspring a little. They aren't popular anymore since they're one
song in the early 90's.

My three favorite bands aren't really around anymore, but their music is
still great. They are Queen, AC DC, and Guns N' Roses.

698 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 00:02:07
>>697
I see.
I've listened to their songs except AC DC.

699 :A Person:2006/10/26(木) 01:47:45
>>698
You should try AC DC, they're pretty good.

700 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/26(木) 01:48:33
>>692
As for me, I like indie music.

But music is something I like, and I spend most of my time now-a-days
looking for new music to get. I like a few Japanese indie bands! A
friend of mine in Malaysia introduces me to a lot of Japanese indie
bands.
Have you ever heard of Spangle call Lilli line? They're my newest
favorite band.

>>679
Ohh, you're really into older music.

>>696
Offspring is still liked by some people (I still love the Americana
album), but they kind of fell off the radar.

My three favorite bands are The Go! Team (really great UK band),
The Lucksmiths (Australian indie band; I love them), and Spangle
call Lilli line (like I said! They've got a really amazing laid-back
sound; very nice to listen to. I reccomend the album "Nanae")

Favorites are hard to pick though. It all depends on my mood to pick
what I want to listen to. Sometimes I want something loud and fast,
sometimes something slow and soothing. You know?

701 :AMERICA-JIN ◆9kbJjvwmwE :2006/10/26(木) 02:16:26
>>690

Same here, but why stop with martial arts? There are also bricks and baseball bats that can help us accomplish our goal.

702 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 02:18:51
Do you turn your speaker of your PC on and listen to music
when you guys are chatting or posting here?

I don't. Music is something I concentrate on listening to not as a
background music. So even when I am posting 2ch, I don't listen to
music, because I am distracted by it and fail to write good English
and read your English right.

I am kind of wierd, I think.

703 :AMERICA-JIN ◆9kbJjvwmwE :2006/10/26(木) 02:21:40
>>702

I do not listen to music while posting, either. I am not distracted by it, but why bother to even have it on if I'm not listening to it?

704 :A Person:2006/10/26(木) 02:22:22
>>702
I sometimes turn on music, even when I have to concentrate. It's
actually better for my brain because it causes me to focus on one
thing and tune out other things going on. People have different approaches
to things though.

705 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 02:42:47
>>703
Yeah. That's also I want to say, too.
Call me stingy but I think it's waste of money. electric bill.

>>704
I've heard some sergeons do an operation while listening to classical music to
relax. I could'nt believe it when I hear it on TV but as long as
they can concentrate more by listening to it, I think it's OK.

706 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 04:48:12
I know a white girl who is going out with a black guy. Her ex-boyfriend is white power,
so he's pretty mad at her. lol

707 :hyf270:2006/10/26(木) 08:14:24

>>625
It means different things to different people. Typically, cute is more
childish looking, and hot is more of like supermodel style. >>638
described it well, although some people do find 'cute' to be sexually attractive

I prefer cute ^^;

>>629
A lot of americans find children really cute in general. I wouldn't say
we have any special thing for japanese children, but we don't hate them.

>>648
Not true. a lot of american girls find asain guys cute or hot.

>>656
What kind of questions? It might be that the people were trying to seem nice
or interested. Or they might just be ignorant. If you're >>658, they were
probably either being rude or making fun of your country, or they're
seriously mentally troubled.

>>663
There's lots of good and bad looking people from every race. I'm white,
and i'm ugly. There are plenty of good looking japanese though.

If you think you're uglier than white people, maybe you just don't realize
how good you look yourself?

708 :hyf270:2006/10/26(木) 08:15:56
>>613
Everyone has their own taste. I like red-heads ^^

in general, I wouldn't say there's any REAL preference among guys, although
blondes are kinda popular since brown/black hair is more common in america.
A lot of girls dye their hair blonde, but there's a lot of different types.


>>673
Well, most do, but nowadays 'cool' looking is usually more important
to girls than being muscular

>>684
I could tell you based off my experiences if you want, but it would be
extremely bitter.

>>689
Agreed. I've heard about 4 non-Bemani hiphop songs I like. And they are still
nothing compared to good old rock. do you like the pillows band?

>>701
I have all my music on my PC. Just don't tell the police where I got it!
I can listen to music and totally ignore it. In fact, a lot of times
I try to listen to music for the lyrics, and I always miss them because I forget..




709 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 09:19:10
結局日本に興味のあるアメリカ人なんて
向こうでは誰からも相手にされないような最下層の人間が大半

710 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 10:54:09
>>709
Let me try translating that.

"After all, the majority of Americans that are interested in Japan are the lowest class
of human, the kind that that nobody wants to be with."

711 :710:2006/10/26(木) 10:55:54
Oops, I made a typo and missed part of it.

""After all, the majority of Americans that are interested in Japan are the lowest class
of human, the kind that nobody over there wants to be with."

712 :A Person:2006/10/26(木) 10:56:59
>>709-710
I'm to tired to counter point that. I'll let someone else do this one
for once.

713 :A Person:2006/10/26(木) 11:05:03
In >>712 "to" is suppose to be "too".

714 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/26(木) 11:18:35
>>711
It's true, though. Most Japanophile/anime otaku who are into asian
guys (or the ones who are only into asian girls; there are loads of
regular guys who like asian girls, but the difference between the
two is noticable), tend to be ones that no one here would want
to be with.

And sometimes they're the type to say "demo" instead of "but" or
squeal "kawaii" or put "ne?" after every sentence. I've been
friends in real life with people like that, and it makes me sad.
I'll admit that I'm someone who likes to watch anime, but I don't
take it to that extreme. Then again, here I am posting on 2ch.

Then there are the people who onlly listen to Japanese music
because it's "better" than western music, even though in most
cases the only difference between the two is the language it's
sung in. Even so, I can't say much. My music is about half
English, half Japanese, and a small portion "other languages."



715 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/26(木) 13:10:05
>>641
One way to describe people obsessed by Asians is to say they have
"Yellow fever" (黄熱).

716 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 13:38:21
Nice joke.

Because yellow fever is found by an Asian researcher.
(Actually, Japanese named Hideyo Noguchi.)

717 :hyf270:2006/10/26(木) 14:16:58
>>709-711
The ones that obsess maybe. Plenty of people over here are interested in japan,
although they probably don't go to the lengths that those of us in this thread do



718 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/26(木) 16:01:57
>>716
If I had 1000 Yen every time I saw a picture of that guy...
(This joke only makes sense after 2004.)

719 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 16:45:23
>>718
>If I had 1000 Yen every time I saw a picture of that guy...

Is the line above a joke, too? I don't get it.
I know he is on 1000 yen bill banknote, though.

720 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/26(木) 16:51:45
>>719
There's a common saying in English: "If I had [x] every time...", meaning
"If somebody gave me [x] every time..."
The joke is that the times I've seen his picture, it was on the 1000 yen
note.

721 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 17:07:10
Jewish girl is beautiful?

722 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 17:15:11
>>720
Thanks.

でも、わかったような、わからないような…。
I'm not sure what is funny about it.

723 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 17:20:16
I still don't understand it either!!

724 :EDL:2006/10/26(木) 17:22:14
i have some questions.
i have a kind of boyfriend.
i rarely talk to him in English.
because my speaking is bad.
i think he just wanna make love with me.
i wanna know what he think.
how can i ask him about that?
please give me some advices.
thank u.

725 :EDL:2006/10/26(木) 17:25:10
just so you know
he has a big cock.
so i am looking forward to it

726 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/26(木) 17:30:08
Every time I saw his picture, I did, in fact, have 1000yen.
The humor comes from taking the sentence literally instead of in the
common saying. (akin to telling somebody あけましておめでとうございます
after they struggle to open a can of beer.)


727 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 17:32:11
>>724

>>313 >>319

728 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 17:35:52
>>726
>(akin to telling somebody あけましておめでとうございます
after they struggle to open a can of beer.)

I understand this joke. Thank you.

729 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 17:36:04
>>726
I get it!!!!

730 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/26(木) 17:37:18
>>728
It's not that funny a joke, as you can now see. ^_^

731 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 17:42:23
>>730
I like every kind of joke.
Even if a joke isn't very funny, to find out how a person trying to
make the joke funny is interesting.

732 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/26(木) 17:54:18
>>730
Humor is one of the hardest things to translate, especially when it's
wordplay. Sometimes English-subtitled Japanese programs will have
two or three lines of text explaining the context of a joke.
I hope to learn enough Japanese that I can speak with a Kansai-ben
accent; a big, tall, pasty-white American (i.e. me) talking like that is
not something most people would expect.

733 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 17:58:19
Just like Daniel Kahl with his Yamagata-Ben, LOL
You could be a TV personality, if you could pull that off.

734 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 18:11:57
I'm Kansai-jin.^^
I also lived Kyushu and Tokyo area.

Should I write "used to live"?

735 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/26(木) 18:27:06
>>734
Either is OK; there's a very small difference in meaning, but not one
I'm able to explain well at 02:35. (If you use 'used to live', there's
extra emphasis on the fact you're not living there currently, as
opposed to stating where you've lived.)
Personally, I'd write it as "I've also lived in the Kyushu and Tokyo
areas."

736 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 18:43:15
>>735
Thank you.
I'm currently living in Kyoto. Can I write that way?
Because I thought "have lived" meant "lived and still live now".

737 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 19:00:06
And here I am thinking "haved lived" means "lived but not anymore."
I think I learned that the present perfect tense is used for actions
that took place in the past and has been completed.

738 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/26(木) 19:10:10
>>736 >>737
It's the past perfect "I had lived in Tokyo" that indicates for sure
that an action has been completed. The present perfect indicates
that something started in the past, and may or may not have
completed. "I'm living in Tokyo." is fine (and unambiguous).

You'd say "I live in Tokyo", but "I've lived in Tokyo for five years",
because the action started in the past.

739 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 19:14:44
I guess both of us had it wrong.
Thanks a lot for the clarification.

740 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/26(木) 19:17:32
>>739
English grammar is tricky; I haven't thought about this stuff since high
school. (I had to go look at wikipedia to explain.)

741 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 19:50:40
Most of girl in this thread is from USA?

742 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 20:00:17
And whose boobs are the biggest among them?

743 :hyf270:2006/10/26(木) 20:03:52
>>724
That's more of a relationship question.. but what i'd do is ask
if they want me or just my body. Of course they're gonna say you though.
Try abstinance? Most guys who don't care about a person's emotions will leave
in that case; but then some people think sex is needed for a relationship.
It's up to you.

>>730
After you explained he's on the 1k\ note, I found it funny.

>>734
Personally if I were saying I had previously lived in a place, i'd say
"I used to live there" but "I also lived there" works fine too
[although your statement should include "IN Kyushu"]
Yet another way of saying it is "I have lived there"
There's a lot of different ways to say it that are correct
as long as you specify it was in the past.

For example, saying "I also live in place and place"
implies that you live in more than one place [such as owning a summer house]
But saying "I also lived in place and place" [Note the past tense in live]
implies that you had lived there, but don't anymore.

I think most english speakers would say "I used to".

"I have lived" can mean either "I used to live here" or "I've been living here since".
It depends on context.



744 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 21:16:50
>>738
>>743
Oops, I had wrong knowledge about the present and the past perfect tenses.
Thanks a lot for correcting it.

One more question.

You indicated that I could also say "I had lived in the Kyushu and Tokyo areas." in the
same situation as the above?

745 :A Person:2006/10/26(木) 23:33:40
It seems that you guys have it under control. For some reason I get proxy
errors on my laptop... I hope it doesn't do that when I take it home over
the weekend.

Anyway, >>744
That is right, you can use "had". There are many ways to express your meaning
with the different uses of adverbs, adjectives, etc. I imagine merkin can give
a better explanation.

746 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 23:49:55
>>745
I see.
thanks.

747 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/26(木) 23:54:22
What type of a girl do you like?

You like a typical Korean girl in Korea?
http://photoimg.enjoyjapan.naver.com/view/enjoybbs/viewphoto/pstar/199000/20060707115220398749570300.jpg
http://photoimg.enjoyjapan.naver.com/view/enjoybbs/viewphoto/pstar/199000/20060707115220398768634200.jpg


Or you like a typical Japanese girl in Japan?
http://photoimg.enjoyjapan.naver.com/view/enjoybbs/viewphoto/pfriend/47000/20060913115814772535606500.jpg
http://photoimg.enjoyjapan.naver.com/view/enjoybbs/viewphoto/pvillage/39000/20060904115736309006410200.jpg



748 :A Person:2006/10/27(金) 01:32:09
>>747
HAHAHAHA! I almost choked on my laughter! I'd definitely choose the Korean
girl after those pictures.

749 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/27(金) 01:51:56
sarah's English is very informative
sarah writes very good english
so write more
we wanna study sarah's english

750 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/27(金) 02:01:52
>>749
I agree.
Sarah is Messiah to me.

751 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/27(金) 02:02:23
>>749
Actually, my English is pretty bad. I've never been very good at
writing, so my grammar sometimes gets a little weird (or the
way I word things tends to be hard to understand).

But if you want to study what I say, just tell me what to talk
about!

752 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/27(金) 02:13:23
>>751
teach me hyphenated words u often use
like >>408
a person who uses hyphenated words seems to be a native english speaker and cool



753 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/27(金) 02:17:22
>>752
Words with hyphens are usually just another kind of compound word, or
sometimes they're a type of phrase.

Like, day-to-day could be said as "day to day," and still mean the same
thing.

Or sometimes, a string of adjectives is hyphenated together (though
I'm not sure how grammatically correct that is).



754 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/27(金) 02:31:27
>>753
teach me hyphenated words u often use
I wanna learn them by heart

755 :A Person:2006/10/27(金) 03:20:10
>>754
Now when I think about it, I don't use many hyphenated words.
Or, at least I don't remember any. They usually are hyphenated
when two words aren't usually used in a compound. I see hyphenated
to have much more emphasis than non-hyphenated. Such as:
"Use-as-needed"
"Use as needed"
Both mean the same thing, but the first one stands out more. I wouldn't
go too far to use hyphens though. Not many people use them, so it is
uncommon and weird to see many in one paragraph or several. I'll look for
a list of hyphenated words.

756 :A Person:2006/10/27(金) 03:23:08
Here's some sites about hyphenated words and such. I hope they
help.

http://www.grammarmudge.cityslide.com/articles/article/426348/2805.htm
http://englishplus.com/news/news0699.htm
http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000127.htm


757 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/27(金) 03:30:16
As Sarah said, hyphens are used to join mutiple words into a single compound word.
One common way of making a compound word is joining the gerund of a verb with a complement that could go with that verb.

For example:
sad-looking
"She looks sad." is a possible sentence. The verb is "look" and the complement is "sad".
The gerund of "look" is "looking", so you can form the compound word "sad-looking".
You can use that word in a sentence like: "I saw a sad-looking cat at the park yesterday."
A lot of times, it's used without hyphens ("sad looking").

Keep in mind that that's just one way that compound words are formed,
and I only gave a very light explanation of it. You could probably write
a book going over the subject of compound words in English and still
not cover it completely, but I think that such an in-depth explanation
probably isn't necessary since you should be able to look up or guess
the meaning of most compound words without problems.

758 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/10/27(金) 03:57:13
>>747
Ganguro and yamanba doesn't do much for me. And they're smokers, yuck!
I like regular punky girls, though.

>>744
I should see if I can find the graph showing relative times for the
various tenses in English. (In general, though, if something happened
in the past and is completed, using the simple past tense is fine; if
something started happening in the past and may or may not be completed,
use the present perfect.)

759 :hyf270:2006/10/27(金) 04:02:54
>>744
"I had lived" indicates that you don't live there anymore.
To me, it kinda implies that you lived there until something happened
recently, but I don't think it really holds that in the words themselves.

>>747
Hahaha. Korean from those pictures, but i've seen plenty of cute
japanese girls.

>>751
not many people care about speaking a language correctly.
And personally, if I were teaching someone english, i'd teach them
a less formal english than schools usually teach, so they
don't sound 'stiff' in conversation. Especially over the internet,
a lot of things are ignored, such as capatalizing proper nouns
(when it is done, it's usually only for people's names)


760 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/27(金) 04:15:22
アイハブワンイングリッシュクエッション。
ウエンアメリカンガールズセイヒーイズキュート!
ダズイットシンプリーミーンザガイイズチャイルディッシュ トゥッゼム?
オアイツメイコノタテツザガイイズアットラクティブアズアメン?
サンクズインアドバンス。

761 :AMERICA-JIN ◆9kbJjvwmwE :2006/10/27(金) 04:17:24
>>721

No. This is never the case.

762 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/27(金) 04:18:00
相棒と亜プロスティツートインカンザスシティ。
シー輪ズキュート。

763 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/27(金) 04:40:41
one of Japan's open secrets: burakumin and ethnic Koreans dominate the organized crime gangs known as the yakuza.
More than three-quarters of the members of the Yamaguchi Gumi, Japan's biggest underworld organization, are said to be burakumin or ethnic Koreans.

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/nytimes/116881398.html?did=116881398&FMT=ABS&FMTS=AI&date=Nov+30%2C+1995&author=By+NICHOLAS+D.+KRISTOF&pub=New+York+Times++(1857-Current+file)&desc=Japan%27s+Invisible+Minority%3A+Better+Off+Than+in+Past%2C+but+Still+Outcasts

764 :539:2006/10/27(金) 10:06:21
>>542

I see. It took me a little while to appriciate research; I was a humanistic major and
it is hard to quantify (if possible) the importance of a research that handles subjective topics.

Well. I will get going...I will keep reading your posts, though.


765 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/28(土) 02:21:43
who is your favorite music artist?
I like kelly clarkson

766 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/28(土) 02:24:10
>>765

If we are strictly talking about young pop idols, then my favorite would definitely be Mandy Moore.

767 :A Person:2006/10/28(土) 03:18:57
>>765
Hmm... I don't really like any music artist now. I like older rock
music anyhow.

768 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/28(土) 03:50:23
definitely Aselin Debison

769 :hyf270:2006/10/28(土) 04:48:52
>>765

I like the pillows, The Beatles, Franz Ferdinand,mostly rock music
but I also listen to a lot of techno and dance because I play
Bemani games ilke DDR

770 :A Person:2006/10/28(土) 07:27:24
>>769
Those are some good choices. Of course that's my opinion.

771 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/28(土) 07:28:25
業務企画部と長野、日本海側、金(キム)川のマネージャーへ「みなさん朗報です。」
えびすの先生や生徒沙良氏の付会なブログ。つぎで、ググルと一番でひっとします。これでヘイサまで○メルコトできます。Howyoudoingと入力して「日本語」のページを検索。
L6や広島、長崎、観光産業を愚弄した彼女です。
3. Posted by 長野L4一年えびす のこり90ポイント 10/20 July 13, 2006 10:42
がいな◎いこの2人の友達のブログより★あきンたさん&ラヴうささん 以下が彼との会話の一部です。


772 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/28(土) 09:54:18
Linkin Park rules!
Zebrahead kicks ass, too.

773 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/28(土) 17:39:16
>>764

Tell me more sometime! :) I'd like to hear more about what others
want to go into, or what to do with their life.



774 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/28(土) 17:59:31
>>1
今さらだがどう見ても英語母語者が立てたとは思えないスレタイだな。

775 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/28(土) 18:27:43
>>774
でも、英文法とかネイティブなのに結構詳しい。
詳しいから逆に日本人くさいか。w

776 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/28(土) 19:13:38
I love sarah

777 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/10/28(土) 20:58:30
>>776
Why???

Or is that just a sentence you'd say just to say?

778 :A Person:2006/10/28(土) 22:16:11
Sarah has a fan following.

779 :英語に関する情報交換と学問的な議論の場所です:2006/10/28(土) 22:22:42
□ English板は、英語に関する情報交換と学問的な議論の場所です。
□ 投稿する前によく読みましょう-「2ちゃんねる初心者のためのページ」も参考にしてください。
 ▽新規スレッドを立てる前に、重複スレッドがないか、「スレッド一覧」でご確認しましょう。
  ・検索方法は、ブラウザの「Ctrl + F」(Windows)・「コマンド゙ + F」(Mac)。
□ お約束 (ローカルルール)
 ▽書き込む前に「2ちゃんねるガイド」を読み、2ちゃんねるのルールを確認しましょう。
 ▽「単発的な質問」や「既存のスレッドと似た内容」で新規スレッドを立てるのはやめよう。
  ・検索や過去ログを活用してね。

Hey Native speakers! Come and help us!
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1089696504/l50
Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 69
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1161662214/l50
English Monologue(英語で独り言) PART I
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1119087516/l50
Debate in English (英語で討論)
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1121077647/l50
Dirty Talk in English (英語で猥談)
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1121001818/l50
Verbal Battle in English (英語で口喧嘩)
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1123440264/l50
∵Dear ☆英語で日記を書こうU☆ Diary∵
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1059537921/l50
英語でレスすると英語力がアップする魔法のスレ
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1029671267/l50
英語で今日の気分を表現するスレ
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1050025795/l50
アメコウと英語を罵倒するスレ
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1041137921/l50


780 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/28(土) 22:26:07
>>778
A Person, please answer >>816 in this thread.
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1161662214/l50


781 :A Person:2006/10/28(土) 22:33:55
>>780
I answered it. I hope it's correct/helpful. By the way, thanks for
the request.

782 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/28(土) 22:40:39
>>781
I asked related question. Come back again and thanks.

That was a question I was asked in another thread.

783 :A Person:2006/10/28(土) 22:45:17
>>782
I already answered the next question. You're welcome.

784 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/28(土) 22:45:59
>>782
Thank you, a person. I asked another question again.




785 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/28(土) 22:46:54
Busy shuttling be tweenthreads back and forth. ^^

786 :A Person:2006/10/28(土) 22:52:17
>>784
I got that one, too.

787 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/29(日) 00:48:47
> > is that just a sentence you'd say just to say?

you'd say just to say  こんな言い方初めて聞いたんだけどどういう意味??

言うために言う?

788 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/29(日) 04:29:58
" say *just to say" の検索結果 約 58,500 件中 1 - 10 件目 (0.15 秒)

関係代名詞は分かるよな?
say something just to sayが元々ある表現だ。
say just to sayでフレーズになってるわけじゃないというところを
抑えとけ。

789 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/29(日) 07:20:50
>>788
>>say something just to say

えいじろうon the webで検索しても出てこなかったけどどういう意味の表現??


790 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/29(日) 10:45:14
単に言いたいから言っただけ?

みたいな意味だと思うけど、この would はどういう使われ方なのかな?

791 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/30(月) 12:57:18
i protiein drink drink, so i am power up strong man.^_^
i strong man is macho , so i can fight and you lose,
because i now power is big and afread . don't cry. hahahahahahaha

792 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/31(火) 13:42:01
Can you do me a favor?
Please see this video clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5FLQlf9dCM

I wonder if native speakers never fail to hear echoed and unclear voices
like this (or is his pronunciation clear enough?).


793 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/31(火) 16:22:35
Why do you think Americans tend to like macho man?
I think that dates back to fronteer era.

To explore wild west and build your own house cutting trees requirs
men to be maccho.

Things may have been changing though after PC came into our life.
Even some geeks as thin as a stick can get respect for thier
knowledege on PC.

794 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/10/31(火) 18:56:36
I made a original phrase.
"I'll give you fuck "
how?

795 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/01(水) 05:25:06
>>792

I understood everything except the very first thing he said (someone's name it seems).
It was not without difficulty though.

796 :A Person:2006/11/01(水) 06:56:21
>>793
Hmm... That's an interesting take on it. I've never really thought
of it, but now that you brought it up, it is true to some point.
However, the smarter guys are starting to get more respect because
the general opinion goes for the more down-to-earth type.

>>794
I don't know... It sounds weird. What's the context behind it?

797 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/11/01(水) 11:45:02
>>794
"I'll give you fuck" sounds more like a person is saying "I'll give you
nothing (or trouble, depending on context)" sort of like saying "I'll
give you shit (for that)," than it sounds like saying "I'll fuck you."

"I'll give you a fucking" could mean "I'll have sex with you," but
"fucking" like that sounds more like a person using "fucking" as a way
to say "a beat up."

Am I making any sense?

798 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/01(水) 12:07:43
>>797
May you die in horrible agony, Amen!

799 :793:2006/11/01(水) 14:52:11
>>796
Thank you for your comment.

I read somewhere that you live in Ohio now.
I've heard Green Buck? or Green something, which is the nickname of
the football team of Ohio State university is very popular and when
football season starts, they are the talk of the town. Is that true?

800 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/01(水) 16:25:37
>>795
Awsome. Your ears are well-tuned to the English sounds...
How much efforts did it take you to recognise echoed and lazily pronounced sounds?

801 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/01(水) 20:07:29
Their was an pens I before in is .

802 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/11/01(水) 21:42:58
>>799
Buckeyes! :) That's the name of their football team (do a google
image search for buckeyes; it's a type of nut if I recall)

Well, when football seasons start, it depends on where you live to know
which team is the "talk of the town." For instance, where I live
(Montgomery, AL), we have two major college football teams.
Alabama state and Auburn.

As for Ohio, I remembered baseball being a bigger thing than football.
Even though the Cleveland Indians aren't the best baseball team, it's
a sort of pride for where you live.

My sister (since we had lived in Ohio and have all of our relatives
there) is a Cleveland Indians fan, and her fiance is a Chicago Cubs
fan, and both of them are kind of bad teams (they lose a lot!)

803 :A Person:2006/11/01(水) 23:19:33
>>799
Sarah is right. It is the Buckeyes. Ohio State is very popular in Ohio.
There are people that like Ohio State at my college. But, football and baseball
are both equally popular here.

804 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 00:19:08
>>802-803
Thank you for your responses.

I googled for images of Buckeyes and yes, a kind of nuts are shown
among football players.

805 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/11/02(木) 00:42:54
>>803
You live in Ohio? Around where?

806 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 01:10:22
>>805
Have you become senile?

I've seen he said that before and you responded to him. ^^

807 :A Person:2006/11/02(木) 02:09:40
>>805
Yeah, I live around Cincinnati.

808 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 02:11:57
hi sarah
how is your pussy

809 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 02:16:46
>>808
That's quite a new way of striking a conversation.

810 :A Person:2006/11/02(木) 02:45:21
>>809
That does not match what some of my friends and I came up with in
high school during lunch.

811 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 02:51:27
In USA, many girls like black men?
Are they like black giant dick?

812 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 02:56:07
>>810
I take it that you and your friends' way of starting talking with a girl
is more explicit?

813 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 03:08:13
tell me the difference between capricious and moody

814 :A Person:2006/11/02(木) 03:10:30
>>812
Not necessarily explicit, but ridiculous. Extremely ridiculous.

815 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 03:15:20
>>811
I've seen somewhere that question was already answered......

>>814
I see. Something like, hey, you have a head on your shoulder?
I can't imagine.

Anyway, I'll hit the sack. Nighty night.

816 :Sarah ◆R9J85veOuw :2006/11/02(木) 03:20:11
>>807
Ah. :) I drove through Cinci this summer on my way to NE Ohio

>>808
Very good, thanks.

>>811
You have to understand, not every guy around here is black, and
not every "american girl" is white.

Goodbye, shopping time! Hopefully going to browse around the
mall today.

817 :AMERICA-JIN ◆9kbJjvwmwE :2006/11/02(木) 03:25:36
>>801

Interesting.

>>793

Our fascination with "machoness" first began with the song "Macho Man" by the Village People. Since then, everyone has wanted to be a macho man.

818 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 03:35:50
kids came to sarah's house on halloween?

819 :A Person:2006/11/02(木) 03:51:09
>>815
No, more ridiculous.

820 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 05:54:23
Why did this stupid thread come back to life?

821 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 08:12:25
Because of the increase of the number of American people here in 2ch.

822 :hyf270:2006/11/02(木) 10:49:54
>>809

That's nothing compared to something a friend of mine gave me.

He called it "the best pickup line ever".

He said it was "If I asked you for sex, would your answer be the same
as your answer to this question?". I doubt it would work.

823 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/11/02(木) 11:16:17
>>822
There's a notable lack of hot logicians out there, sadly.

824 :hyf270:2006/11/02(木) 15:41:41
Japan, I was thinking about accents. You see, I say my "R" sounds oddly,
and they usually sound more like "W"s. Like, when I say "girl", it usually
sounds like "gu-wel" instead of "gur-el"; a lot of people ask if i'm
from Boston or New York (Northeast US cities)

What kind of odd voices do you have in japan, other than words you only use
in some areas?

825 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 18:06:53
>>822
It took ten minutes to understand the line.
As a Japanese English learner, you have to understand subjunctive mood
to understand this pickup line. My head is still spinning.


826 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 18:28:17
>>825
tenses are much harder in English than in Japanese.

827 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 18:32:58
Hey native english speakers try this english Vocabulary Test
↓↓
http://www.wordsandtools.com/vocdemo/gzram3.html

and write your Estimated vocabulary size
Dont use english dictionary
my score was 3715

828 :825:2006/11/02(木) 19:00:46
My score is 9870 89/120

You can guess but I am Japanese.



829 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 19:27:07
>>827
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1089696504/l50
ここでも宣伝しといた。

830 :hyf270:2006/11/02(木) 19:49:35
>>827
on the Advanced vocab:
RESULT:
Score: 88 of 120
Estimated vocabulary size: 1350
There were a lot of odd ones on there... like Gaol -> Prison;
I wouldn't have known that if I hadn't learned that Gaol
was an archaic (old) spelling of Jail, from playing
FF11 (Area: Moridion Gaol)

I wouldn't rely on that too much, at least the advanced.
i've read through college textbooks
and old books and never seen some of those

it's alot easier to guess what a word means when you hear it
in a sentence; in context; than just on a sheet.

Like if I said "Chillax", (extremely annoying slang,
but the best example I could think of at the moment.
If you say this word to me, I will yell at you.)
you probably wouldn't know what the hell it was.

If I said "Hey man, you need to chillax" when you were angry,
you could probably assume it means "calm down".
[For reference, Chillax is a portmandeau (bad spelling, I know) of
Chill and Relax. It's slang, and extremely annoying to me, but
it's become pretty popular amongst teenagers and young adults]




831 :hyf270:2006/11/02(木) 19:52:27
Error; should be 13500 est. size; not 1350. accidently deleted a 0 ^^

832 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 19:58:40
Zuiikin English!!!

すげぇえ!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5qoMfBJUeI&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-QNWpJaiY0&mode=related&search=


833 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 20:10:37
my score 6015
>>830
are you an american? how old are you? are you male? are you a student?
are you speak japanese? how are you doing?

834 :827:2006/11/02(木) 21:45:44
I want to know how much score native americans get
do americans get full score with no problem ?

835 :A Person:2006/11/02(木) 22:12:12
13880 is what I got on Advanced. So that's 93/120. You wanted to know,
so I did it. (That took longer than expected.)

836 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/02(木) 22:18:50
>>827
RESULT:
Score: 116 of 120
Estimated vocabulary size: 14430

on the intermediate one, there was only one word I did not know.
On one of them I read a v as a w and thought it was the wrong word,
in the others it as not that I did not know the word or that meaning but
without context I was not sure which they meant.



837 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/03(金) 02:25:46
sarah must do >>827

838 :A Person:2006/11/03(金) 04:37:53
It's sort of unfair that nobody is doing it on the same level. We
should have set parameters.

839 :hyf270:2006/11/03(金) 06:30:58
>>833
Yes, i'm american. I'm 15, but i've got an
above average vocabulary, especially for my age.

Yes, male; yes, student.

I'm trying to learn japanese; i'm still working on hiragana ^^;;

>>834
I doubt that most americans could get all of the words correct on
the advanced one. There's 'Ye Olde English' in there, along with
some words that are just odd. Like "Zap", they say it means
"change"; but most Americans would probably think of
Electricity/Shock when they hear "zap".

840 :hyf270:2006/11/03(金) 06:32:45
>>837
Haha, Sarah has a lot of fans now doesn't she?

841 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/11/03(金) 07:16:02
>>827
RESULT:
Score: 109 of 120
Estimated vocabulary size: 17600

The test is British English, not American - which is why they have the
spelling of 'gaol' and not 'jail' (the two are pronounced the same).
'swot' never ever appears in American English, and some of the connotations
of the words are dramatically different. My score would have been higher
had I gone along with the alternate meanings.

I wouldn't put a lot of faith in that test.

842 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/03(金) 12:41:22
>>836 picked more right answers than >>841(Merkin) but his score is
lower than Merkin. I wonder why.

843 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/03(金) 12:42:57
Ahh. I get it >>836 took an intermidiate level test.

844 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/03(金) 17:42:54
americans cant get full score !
Im relieved

845 :hyf270:2006/11/03(金) 17:50:22
>>844
Well, like >>841 said, it's british english.
If we had one of those in american english, we'd probably do a lot better,
especially since those of us interested in japan and japanese probably
are good at english already.

But yes, on average, americans use a very limited vocabulary
Try simple.wikipedia.org; it's made with simple english;
if you can understand that and use it, you'll probably get
along fine with most day-to-day tasks in an english country;
or someone could easily explain the other words to you.

846 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/03(金) 18:09:38
Is there that huge gaping difference between british English and American English??
If so, sometimes Americans don't understand books written in British English or vice virce?
That's stupid, why don't you guys do something and integrate those two Englishes as one official ENGLISH !!
and make it easier for us to learn just one English, not two totally different things, and half the time we have to spend learning English!!

847 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/03(金) 18:35:58
I think it's just diversity. Diversity is important. Each country has their own culture.
Language is one of the cultures.

848 :hyf270:2006/11/03(金) 18:42:11
>>846
Well, to a point; yes.If you start getting more complex,
there are big differences in english. You can see that somewhat
in different areas of the USA, but UK-USA is a big difference.
Usually, if we watch BBC (British TV), we can understand what
they are talking about; if we go to england we know what they're
saying- but they have words they use that we don't, and vice versa.

There have been some attempts to integrate languages together,
but they never become very popular. Like how US still doesn't use
the metric system (grams and meters VS. pounds and feet)

A good example is the language "Esperanto"; which was an attempt
to create a universal language that would be easy for everyone on
earth to use; it's probably the most famous language like that,
and still most people don't even know what it is.

The good news is, as more and more people use the internet everyday
and we all start to chat together; we will start speaking more like
each other. I bet in 100 years, as long as there's no major incidents
(like World War III or something), almost everyone on earth will
be able to speak english at least as well as most americans (which
isn't all that great really). I bet in 200 years, people will
only use other languages for reading old things, and maybe
special events (sort of like how now jewish outside
isreal usually only use hebrew for Bar Mitzfa)

849 :hyf270:2006/11/03(金) 18:44:56
>>847
Maybe. But if some people would give up a little of their culture,
and others gave up a little of theirs, it would be easier to
merge out cultures together. Trimming the fat to make
a bigger burger, I guess.

850 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/03(金) 20:45:29
Do you know who Matsuzaka Daisuke is?
Is he still not popular in the US?

851 :A Person:2006/11/03(金) 21:27:51
>>844
Keep in mind that English does have one of the biggest vocabularies in the
world with about 500000 listed in the Oxford English Dictionary. The usual vocabulary
range should be at 200000, but we only use a fraction of that in everyday speech. So,
that amounts to about 100000 words or less, maybe more if you choose to brighten up your
speech with "colorful" words.

852 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/03(金) 21:28:53
"still" sounds awkward to me. Do I have to say "Is he not popular in the US yet?"?
Matsuzaka Daisuke is a famous pitcher of the professional baseball in Japan.
He's going to play in the US from the next season.

853 :名無しさん:2006/11/03(金) 21:38:13
Americans think Shakespeare is a master of English language and
read his texts as they are, which are not translated into modern
English, right?

I wonder it is the same with comtemporary stories, such as
Harry Potter, Chocolate Factory...

854 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/11/04(土) 06:46:05
>>846
When we do that, we should get rid of Tōhoku-ben, Ibaraki-ben, Nagoya-ben,
Toyama-ben, Fukui-ben, and especially Hakata-ben and Kansai-ben.

>>850 >>852
Either is acceptable, I'd say; "still" implies that it was expected that
he should be popular but is not.

>>853
In school, yes; not so many people read Shakespeare for fun. They're
tough going.

855 :hyf270:2006/11/04(土) 09:46:34
>>850/852
"Is he still not popular in the US?" is fine. If anything,
"yet" sounds more awkward to me.

And I haven't heard of him; however i'm not into sports. Typically,only the very biggest stars (Babe Ruth, Micheal Jordan,
Mark McQuire, etc.) in sports become really famous to people
that don't pay attention to sports.

>>853
Schools for 9th year + (High school and college) usually
make students read shakespeare. Although usually
people read the original version, sometimes they read versions
that people make that are shorter and easier to understand,
so they can do better on tests since they actually understand
the material. Most Americans don't read anything because they want
to, except magazines. Those that do typically are women that
read romance/mystery novels, which are written more recently.
Like "Nora Roberts" books

856 :名無しさん:2006/11/04(土) 10:59:19
The same things are going on here in Japan.
People over 70 are, as they say, addicted to printed books, because
books were the only entertainment they could have when they were growing up.

Younger people don't read so much except magazines, light novels, and
romance novels targeted for young women. And both men and women are
into anime or manga, which are as two dimentional as books but
there are more images and sounds than traditional books.

857 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 11:02:18
Don't over-normalise them. Just because you don't read doesn't
mean all the younger generations don't, either.

858 :名無しさん:2006/11/04(土) 11:07:57
Don't over-normalise?
Does that mean 'over-generalize?'

859 :hyf270:2006/11/04(土) 11:59:55
over-normalise would be closest to generalize; although it seems
he wanted to say "Don't make assumptions about them"

860 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 13:37:02
>>854-855
Thanks.
I like baseball.^^


861 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 15:04:07
Abduction is Abduction: Japan's hypocrisy of Megumi Yokota
http://youtube.com/watch?v=G_G-NsfAmws

Japanese women abduct foregine children.


862 :hyf270:2006/11/04(土) 16:12:01
>>861
That seems really bad... but still, those people are really annoying.

863 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 16:14:01
those people?
who are you talking about?

864 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 21:00:01
I miss sarah....

865 :Anmeyna:2006/11/04(土) 21:01:23
who's sarah?

866 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 21:06:22
Sarah used to be THE most popular poster on ENGLISH.
But she's gone.
Since she's being gone, I can breathe for the first time.
So movig on yearhyearh

867 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 21:07:42
thanks to you !!

868 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 21:09:15
now I get ! I get what I want!!

869 :Anmeyna:2006/11/04(土) 21:09:21
ahh i see ! me i'm new since yesterday and i'm a frenchie lol :/ i speak only english i know any word in japanese

870 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 21:14:06
>>869
hello french guy! how are you?
How old are you?
What was your last year's income?
What is your religion?
Where do you live??

871 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 21:15:41
>>869
are you Zidann?

872 :Anmeyna:2006/11/04(土) 21:17:15
loooll zidane ahahah u like soccer ? :P
ME i'me fine yea! it's only 1pm here :D
I live in Bordeaux ( a city Famous for is Wine lol!)
What about u how r you?

873 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 21:21:31
I'm feeling bad.
Because I just talked to a French guy, ughe.
I hate France.

ぬわ〜〜んちゃってww。僕仏国隙らよ。

874 :Anmeyna:2006/11/04(土) 21:24:14
lol !! tell me why

875 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 21:34:36
cava ?
merde putain
alleze !!
francais ?
oui

876 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 21:36:17
>>874
Quel est votre revenu annuel de menage ?

877 :Anmeyna:2006/11/04(土) 21:38:27
ouai ! Francais ahah pourquoi tu veux savoir ca loooll

878 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 21:51:04
Pourquoi ne voulez-vous pas repondre aux questions ?

879 :Anmeyna:2006/11/04(土) 21:52:03
lol tu veux savoir combien est notre revenu annuel ?

880 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 22:02:11
tutti si porte de que cevoir xie ?

881 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/04(土) 22:04:01
Comment grand votre penis est-il ?

882 :hyf270:2006/11/05(日) 01:14:08
!Ay dios mio! No comprende las Frenchais :( Yo hablan en ingles y un poco
de el espanol y ... Shit, forgot how to say "Japan" in spanish.

883 :Anmeyna:2006/11/05(日) 01:15:55
loollll ahah hentai :P i'll not tell you ! U know only bad word in french ! (Yo Hablo tambien un pokito espanol :D)


884 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/05(日) 01:52:18
this thread only portuguese
dont speak french
speak portuguse

885 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/05(日) 02:12:34
http://p.pita.st/?m=r4xgcr3e

886 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/05(日) 06:33:17
>>882
Tu español es malisimo. Por favor no lo hablas.

887 :886:2006/11/05(日) 06:34:48
Yo tambien tengo español malo. "No lo hables" es la correcta forma mandativa.

888 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/11/05(日) 11:01:09
Je suis un Americain étupide; je ne parle pas le français, solemont le
anglais. (He olvidado casi todo el español yo aprendío.)

889 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/05(日) 11:13:19
좀ㅅㅁㄱ됴ㅐㅕㅅ미ㅏㅑㅜㅎ뮤ㅐㅕㅅ?

890 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/11/05(日) 12:11:16
>>889
Korean is one of the few languages in which I don't know how to say
"I cannot speak Korean".

891 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/05(日) 21:35:36
저는 한국어를 말할수 없어요.
Chonun hangugorul maralsu opsoyo.

892 :A Person:2006/11/06(月) 01:05:54
It's been a while since I posted. I was too busy playing a computer game.
Has this become the multiple languages thread?

Let's see:
French
Spanish
English
Japanese
Korean

...any more?

893 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/06(月) 01:33:02
english and japanese only
if u want to speak other languages
go to hell

894 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/06(月) 15:31:18
Nice to speak to you, hyf270.
What's the score an average american would get in TOEFL, GMAT and GRE?
What about an average student in undergraduate school, graduate school and PhD
(both top-tier and the others)?
And how did they, especially those who have broader vocabulary, achieve it?

895 :SAMURAI A ◆GfWlEQyDyE :2006/11/06(月) 18:40:02
I am a Samurai.
I like soy sauce and yasabi.
I son'T like americans
because they droped atomic boms in hiroshima and nagasaki.
they are killer.

896 :SAMURAI A ◆GfWlEQyDyE :2006/11/06(月) 18:43:18
not yasabi.
wasabi.
へへっ、いきなり間違えた。へへ。

897 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/06(月) 18:46:44
Hello, samurai.

898 :SAMURAI A ◆GfWlEQyDyE :2006/11/06(月) 19:03:35
>>897
hello

899 :samurai b:2006/11/06(月) 20:26:52
i sont like A

900 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/06(月) 20:35:59
sont means what ???

901 :A Person:2006/11/06(月) 22:53:44
sont = don't in his context.

902 :神奈川:2006/11/06(月) 23:16:02
猿箸社長、業務管理部、経営企画部、横浜エリアマネージャーへ
神奈川の望校のマンツー4ポイント校で大規模な先生生徒の宴会スタッフも?
しかもブログで曝しています。きもいながけこいさんと七季さんをはじめ神奈川なんで場外レッスンをブログに
公表するのですか。「pao808080」 日本語検索でぐぐればヒットしますよ。
対応してくれないと、苦情箱にいれますよ。初めて見るほど、比度いブログ。

2006年11月5日
7時半頃家に戻り、軽くシャワーをあびたあと隣駅の居酒屋へ・・・
今日は、Rの送別会でした。
行ってみると、10人の予定が15人くらいになっているではないですか。。。
レッスンで一緒になる苦手なメンバーやら私より15歳は年下であろう子たちがいて、
「誰じゃぁ〜!!こんなにウザイメンバーを集めたのは!!!」と内心思っていたら張本人のRでした
おばさんは若い子と飲むと疲れます。。。


イヤイヤ始めた英会話。。。
なのに。。。すっかりはまっています♪>>周りは迷惑、生徒とスタッフの摘。
2005年10月7Aからスタート!2006年8月L3になりました。トイック模擬640点レベル3の時 2006年8月
神奈川県 パオ ブログネーム 2006年 11月 3 4 5日は仙台・松島へドライブ 9月3日に
ボイスパスを購入しています。8月29日には、ノバで9月から働く人とメイト(一緒にレッスンしました。)週9末週末は
中傷と先生との場外出会いで人気上昇中、もちろん目的はクリック粉図解かせぎ。USCPAも勉強しているので、一日もはやく、「ぱお」さんとよんで欲しい。わたしもだれがお子図解くれるか、顔が見たい。
2005年10月 外資系への転職を機にNOUAで英会話を始めました。7Aから始めたのに、今はL4を攻撃しています。授業いやがれせブログ沙良氏。
3マンツーポイントの秘密を教えてくれたスタッフ無視し沙良氏。もちろん狙いは有料クリック。L3= USCPA=転職するより小学工に言ったほうがいいのでは
(人の悪口と企業秘密で子図解稼ぐのは悪いこと)?神奈川では某公園を始めなんで沙良氏ブロガーが多いのか?マンツー3ポイント


903 :hyf270:2006/11/06(月) 23:38:26
>>894
I don't know. We don't use those as far as I know; if we do it's limited use.

We mostly use the "SAT" and "ACT" tests for college admission.

904 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/07(火) 02:59:06
If anyone finds this letter ,
it means that my plan didn't work
and that I'm already dead .
But if I can somehow go back to the beginning of all this
I might be able to save her .

905 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/07(火) 06:34:57
>>904
I found it, so you are dead.

906 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/07(火) 19:11:18
Bush's approval rating is bad, right?
Then why doesn't he go to war with North Korea?
I mean Americans are stupid, and always support Presidents fighting wars.
So, I think Bush should make up some stupid reasons to start a war or two, just as he did with Iraq.
What do you thinK?

907 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/07(火) 19:18:57
>>906
Why are you so offensive?
Not all Americans are dumb-headed. And if Bush loses, terrorists
will come to life and the hell will break loose.

908 :hyf270:2006/11/07(火) 20:26:00
because right now most americans are not happy with the war,
and if he went to war without a threat of attack from N.Korea, he
could be kicked out; and it would be likely his party would lose
the election in a couple years.
There's already a lot of disapproval of that party; since it became
public that one of the members was having sex, or at least talk of
a sexual nature, over the internet- with teenagers who worked at the building.

They had known about it for awhile, but didn't do anything until someone
reported it to the news.

909 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/07(火) 20:53:49
>903
Thanks for responding.
But, what about gradschool admission? Though TOEFL isn't required,
even you americans seem required to take GMAT/GRE.
Or, is it so easy for americans that they don't do any preparation?

910 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/07(火) 21:36:47
The Americans is voting in midterm elections now.
If Democrat wins in both House and Senate, they might impeach Bush.

Who do you think is the next president, Mrs. Clinton or Miss. Rice?

911 :名無しさん:2006/11/07(火) 21:53:26
>>909
One of the members... if he had been having sex with women, the issue
would not have been made public, would it?

912 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/07(火) 22:00:57
>>911
So what are you saying? It's unfair that he is shamed because he
is a *gay* pedophile?

913 :hyf270:2006/11/07(火) 22:51:37
>>909 i'm not really sure to tell you the truth.

if you're interested, you could look it up on wikipedia, although
I don't know how helpful it would be.

>>910
It's unlikely that they would impeach him, unless they found him guilty
of crimes. Also; although democrats could win the house (43 seats
"up for grabs", most/all of which are republican, and they only need
to get 15 more seats to control the house), it's unlikely
they'll take the senate. They need 6 seats there, and only
8 are considered "up for grabs"

That's the bad thing about midterms, most of the time, nothing changes.

As far as presidents go, I find it unlikely that either of them
would be president, if one was it would be Hillary. They're both
not very well liked from their relationships with the past two
presidents. Ms. Rice is even more unlikely, in my opinion, because
of Bush's unpopularity, and the fact that she's black. We've all
come a long way as far as racism is concerned, but there's still
a lot of people that would not vote for her simply because of that,
however pathetic the fact may be. In fact, both candidates are
unlikely to a point just because many American men still don't think
of women as true equals, and don't think one should run the country.


914 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/07(火) 23:43:39
>>913
Thank you for the reply.

The point is whether Democrats take a majority in the Senate.
I personally hope one of the women will be elected as president.

915 :A Person:2006/11/08(水) 00:33:12
I do not believe that Rice would make a good president, and she scares
the heck out of most moderate Americans. Hilary Clinton scares most of
us moderate Americans, too.

916 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 00:48:22
>>915
who do you have in mind??

917 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 01:00:56
I've heard that Senator Kelly's comment on the Iraq war was controversial
and provocative. Perhaps the Japanese translation of what he said
is like "if you don't want to go to Iraq, then you should be educated."
I remember he said he was just trying to jeer at Bush, but don't know
how everything went with this incident.

918 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 01:09:53
American people must be busy watching TV today and wait for
the election results to come out.

919 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 01:24:30
Hello.
Why do americans hold elections on a week day??
In japan elections are held on Sunday, so that as many people as possible could vote.
I think japan's way is very reasonable and logical.

920 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 01:44:07
>>919
But come to think of it, Japan's voting rate is quite low.
One reason is because elections are held on weekends, I think.
If the place where you vote is a bit away from your place, no wonder
there are people who think this way: It's a pain to go out just for voting.

921 :A Person:2006/11/08(水) 02:11:55
>>916
Personally, I don't think there has been any good candidates for
presidency. Perhaps there will when it comes closer to 2008.

>>917
It's Senator Kerry, not Kelly. I didn't really get to hear it
first hand, but it doesn't matter. Last time I heard, he wasn't
trying for presidency again.

>>919
It's been like that for a while. I remember learning why they chose
to do it this way, but I forgot.

922 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 02:12:08
Fuck you

923 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 02:15:49
Maybe Christians don't work on Sunday so no election Sundsay thing?

924 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 02:25:07
Suck my dick

925 :A Person:2006/11/08(水) 02:36:44
Sunday is the Holy day for Christians. You aren't suppose to work,
but remember that much of America is pretty secular even though they
might be Christian. It makes sense that there aren't elections on Sunday
because then it's a religious day for Christianity, Saturday is a religious
day for Jewish, and etc.

926 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 09:37:31
I wish Ai Kago would return and this thread doesn't.

927 :hyf270:2006/11/08(水) 16:55:38
>>917
What he said was "If you study and work hard, you become succesful,
if you don't, you end up in Iraq." He was talking about Bush, but the
way he said it sounded like an insult to the troops, which is bad for
him. Even people who don't support the war don't usually think it's
right to call people in the army stupid.

>>919-920
Well, not many people vote anyway to be honest.
I guess those of us who are lucky enough to get to vote
don't care enough a lot of the time, huh?

>>925
Actually, a lot of Christians don't honor Sabbath as sunday anymore;
they just pick their own day out of the week for it.
Especially poorer families who have to take jobs that aren't
monday-friday.

928 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 17:21:06
According to MSN Japan, the democratic party won the election
because of: a) the number of the casualties in the Iraq war
and b) corruption of several republican legislaters - insider trade and sexial scandal.

Ironically, this election results might boost NK's motivation.
It's said that Kim Jon Ill and his lietenants strongly believe
democrats will be gentle to NK. Remember former Secretary of State Albright
flied to NK and shoke hands with NK.


929 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 18:51:09
>>928
It's hard to believe that you are Neet.

930 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 19:11:58
Where is Sarah gone? Hope she's back and have chats with me or i mean, us.

931 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 19:22:42
Yes Yes
Exactly !
Sarah is gone and we miss her.
All we have are all stupid, like merkin ,Magibon.

932 :hyf270:2006/11/08(水) 20:24:26
I just watched the nouse; the Democrats won the house;
although they might have to recount the ballots for one of them.

Still no word on the Senate.

They said on the news that the biggest issue most voters (in exit polls)
said were "Terrorism, The Economy, The War in Iraq, and"...well,
I forgot the last one. I think it had something to do with people
being angry with the current government.

It's kind of sad that Japan seems more well informed about this stuff
than people who live here.

While I was looking at the news site; I found this:
http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=1393716&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.7.1
Have you heard of it?

933 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 20:30:36
Because Japanese are ugly. Not only their appearances but also their minds.

934 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 20:31:46
>>932
yeah, the dolphin news was on the front page of the newspaper
I subscribe to, a couple of days ago.
BTW, have you swum with dolphins?
Although we have places where you can swim with the, it seems like Florida is the mecca for it.


935 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 20:44:18
Only 1/3 seats are at stake in the Senate.
As you mentioned, the Americans seem to be mad about the performance of Bush.
The only thing Bush can do in the remaining 2 years is withdraw the troops from Iraq.

936 :hyf270:2006/11/08(水) 21:08:39
>>934
Yes I have. Well, I didn't really "swim" with them, but i've been
in the water next to them, and got to touch them. They feel like
rubber, don't they? I think when I did it, it was in the Bahamas,
not Florida, although there are places in florida too. If you like
ocean animals, Florida has Sea World, which is a lot of fun.

>>935
He might leave the troops there, that way anything bad that happens
when they come back can be blamed on the next president.

937 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 21:20:56
>>936
That's great!
It's been reported that dolphins have special sonic power(?) to cure different
diseases, including autism.
Have you felt specially better after being closed to them?
(Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you are a shut-in, lol)

938 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 21:40:25
yeah, a shut-in doesn't go to the Bahamas.

939 :hyf270:2006/11/08(水) 21:41:10
>>937
They have echolocation..I suppose maybe that could improve some peoples conditions
kinda like ultrasound, maybe?

Personally, I don't remember it that well; but I don't remember feeling
any 'better' or feeling something special.

Maybe it's like how people who are sick feel better around dogs and cats?

940 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 21:54:15
>>939
Echolocaiton, a new English word for me.
Thanx!
I'm neither feeling sick nor a sick person, I love touching (and even
looking at) dogs, because they are always so cheerful~~

941 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 21:55:58
eat shit and die,losers

942 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 21:58:49
>>941
After you, thanks, LOL~~~~~~

943 :hyf270:2006/11/08(水) 22:19:29
>>940
you can read more here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echolocation

Bats and dolphins are famous for it.

944 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/08(水) 22:25:29
>>943
Gee, thanx!

945 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 00:24:28
go home, yanks

946 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 00:49:18
Im bored since sarah has gone

947 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 00:59:52
But we still have merkin.
Is merkin a girl?

948 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/11/09(木) 02:36:20
>>909
Americans definitely study for the GMAT and GRE.
(And I'm not sure that they require the TOEFL for grad school; some of
the graduate assistants I had were almost incomprehensible [when
speaking, anyway.])

>>947
Sadly, no; I'm an old, decrepit, ugly, senile male.
(and 馬鹿, according to >>931 it seems.)

949 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 05:22:05
I've just heard defence secratery Donald Rumsfeld was going to step down
to take responsibility of the lost election. I'm not sure whether he is respectable
or not (considering his connection with the oil industry), but I must wonder if
American people think he deserved to resign.

>>948
>Sadly, no; I'm an old, decrepit, ugly, senile male.
No, you are not. I don't think senile males can make elear explanations
like you do. :)
Don't pay attention to those meaningless posts.

Anyway, one of the horrible things of this anonymous posting
system is slander. As things stand now, those who speak badly about someone
in a gratuitous manner are winners. This is really unfair.
Those obsucure people who are bad-mouthed in 2ch feel dubious and get tired,
because only pretentious friends of theirs can post about them (betrayal...).
In the worst case I've read about, a person got as many anonymous, slandering calls from
those who read the posts. This is the dark side of 2ch.
Personally, we need clearer rules under which those who try to say something bad about their
aquaintances should also take risks, like their identities are also open to us. They should
know what they do is an abuse of human rights.

950 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 05:27:34
>In the worst case I've read about, a person got as many anonymous, slandering calls from
>those who read the posts.
Just to make sure, her phone number was posted somewhere. That's why.

951 :A Person:2006/11/09(木) 05:31:30
>>949
Donald Rumsfeld isn't really liked congressionally. The Democrats blame
him for how bad things are turning out in Iraq, so their win is sort of directly linked
to Rumsfeld stepping down. Frankly, in my own opinion, I think it needed to happen no matter
what. They need a fresh idea and a new face to try and sort the mess. If some old idea is not
working, then wouldn't you want some creativity to solve the issue? I sure as heck would.

952 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 05:47:10
>>951
I see. So the successor may be supposed to change the current policy
drastically. Hmm, now that thing has come this far, I can't come up with
a good solution to the controversial problem, though, whether or not
the troops should retrieve.. This change ovbiously have an affect on
Japan too. I remember former prime minister Koizumi is the one who first
supported America when Bush decided on waging war. Well, I don't think
Koizumi would take any responsibility, though.

953 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 05:48:31
#include<stdio.h>

int main(void)
{
printf("nullpo");
return 0;
}

954 :A Person:2006/11/09(木) 05:58:36
>>952
Oh yeah, a different Secretary of Defense means a slightly to very
different method of foreign relations. However, with the person that
Bush chooses, I doubt that there is really going to be any HUGE
differences. But, what ever the change, it might be better.

955 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 06:44:20
>>954
I see what you mean. By the way, do you think the result of this
election will lead to another? I mean, the next presidential election?
Whoever will run for the election is anybody's guess now but some say
Hillary Clinton has laid a good groundwork so far.

Ahh, Japanese politics also need change...

956 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 06:50:04
Hmm, Britney Spears filed a lawsuit? I didn't even know she got devorced and
married again..

957 :hyf270:2006/11/09(木) 07:40:37
>>949
well i'm actually kind of suprised, but last night on the news
they were saying that they should fire Rumsfeld. I think a lot of people
are upset with him too... well I suppose that could be said for most of the
people in the government, huh?

>>949
Still not that bad compared to 4chan... you know how seedy that place is?
They've caused terrorism scares, distributed child pornography,
attacked and even made many sites and internet services unusable...
and they do it for fun.

>>955
Well, it's kind of hard to tell based on what's happened here, although
things are good for democrats now; people are controlled by the media.
If the news reported that democrats were responsible for killing all
the unicorns and dragons, people would hate them. People can be
irrational like that, but that's how it is.

Basically, if something bad is blamed on the democrats, they will be unpopular
if the same thing is blamed on republicans, they will be unpopular.
This is why a two-party system doesn't work. People play "teams"
instead of voting for what they really want in their heart.



958 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/11/09(木) 07:40:44
>>949
Rumsfeld is almost universally loathed inside the Department of Defense.
He shook hands with Saddam Hussein in 1993, _after_ the US knew that
Saddam was trying to build nuclear weapons. He vigorously defended the
Bush administration's use of torture. He has called people who criticise
him or the president fascists.
I don't think he's respectable at all.

>>949
Heh. I'm amused by being called stupid, although I wish they had come
up with something more creative. One of the reasons I'm on 2ch is to
see what Japanese people say when they're safely anonymous. (I don't
really care if people know who I am, but I figure it's impolite to be
overly personal about myself.)

959 :merkin ◆BeSm0ofY92 :2006/11/09(木) 07:42:04
>>957
Actually, 4chan's pretty adamantly anti-childporn. They do love
causing trouble to sites that are overly impressed with themselves,
though.

960 :A Person:2006/11/09(木) 08:34:59
>>956
We should all know that she's quite the joke. She can't really find
her OWN identity. This is her though process, 'Every body looks like
they want to look half naked. I'll do the same. Oh look, every body
else is married... Oh look! Every body else is having kids... How
cute? Hey, they're getting divorced. My life is ruined because of this
man, I'll do the same.'

961 :A Person:2006/11/09(木) 08:35:43
>>960
though = thought


962 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 10:05:15
The US troops will come back to America. Economical burden will get decreasing.
But I suspect the democrats will let Kim Jon ill survive. Instead, they prefer to
choose a (economical) conflict between japan and America.


963 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 11:06:22
>>962
酷い英語だな・・w

964 :A Person:2006/11/09(木) 11:51:33
>>962
Not just yet. Bush is still in office for another two years.
So his policy still stands.

965 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 11:53:38
>>963
Please correct >>962.

966 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 11:54:51
dick-head go to hell

967 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 12:04:52
Is the sky blue today where you live?

968 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 12:18:23
>>967
Yes, I am.
Il fait beau.

969 :hyf270:2006/11/09(木) 15:15:17
>>959
I know, I've spent quite a bit of time on 4chan. I even got b& once.
point is; the place still breeds those types of people.



970 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 15:44:39
Democrats hate Japan. I don't know why, though.

971 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 15:52:19
Because we are yellow mokeys.

972 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 16:28:38
ttp://www.sunnyspeed.com/puzzle/
Hey, please try this brain game in English.
It's a kind of word game. I'm trying level 3, but have no idea to solve the problem.

973 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 16:34:20
You're awsome. I can't solve the first problem of the level 1.
What does the code imply?

974 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 16:37:52
IP address....


975 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 16:41:39
Why does the American have an antipathy against the French?
Can you distinguish between the Chinese, the Korean, tne Japanese?

976 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 16:42:44
>>974
IP what?

977 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 16:46:40
Just put the numbers in your address bar.
It's Yahoo webpage's address.


978 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 16:47:13
yellow submarine! yellow submarine!

979 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 16:51:12
>>974
Ah, I input "ip", but couldn't move to the next problem..
Now I see what I shoulda put in.

980 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 16:52:52
>>972
How do you get past level 2? The answer is 50, I think, but that doesn't work.
The pattern is n² + 1, isn't it?

981 :972:2006/11/09(木) 16:56:24
It's bit tricky, Read the question carefully.
It's not talking bout numbers, it's bout words.

982 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 16:58:46
I also am sure it's 50, but it didn't work, either. Why?


983 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 17:00:01
Defense Secretary Rumsfeld was replaced....


984 :972:2006/11/09(木) 17:00:29
Enter a number below
Not number, guys. Just put exactly what the sentense says.

985 :980:2006/11/09(木) 17:04:00
That was a stupid one... Level 3 is even harder, though...
What could the answer be?

986 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 17:04:11
Hello american!
What's your blood type?
Does your blood type have anything to do with your personality??
That's what Japanese people believe!
Don't you think that's stupid??

987 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 17:09:12
That's really tricky..

988 :972:2006/11/09(木) 17:09:15
Ok, finally you are at my level. I have no idea.
I'm just trying stupid answers so many times, but just can't get through.

989 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 17:12:22
Maybe it's a trick and there is no answer. lol

990 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 17:15:00
If you can't answer correctly, I think I can't. lol
But I'll try.

SHould we answer to the "What are you sorry for?" line?


991 :972:2006/11/09(木) 17:22:25
But the first page said , there will be 10 questions.
There should be a correct answer.
I couldn't get the correct answer, and I thought it might be
something that only native speakers can understand, so I came
to this thread. Umm....

992 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 17:22:33
Or should we search for a word that rhymes with six?

993 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 17:24:44
Level 3 is pissing me off. I think I give up.
WTF does it mean by "That's not good. ^_^ You don't need this!"?
That must be the clue. I don't get it, though.

994 :972:2006/11/09(木) 17:30:59
I agree with you, i also thought ^_^ this thingy could be a clue.
By the way, because of such a stupid brain game, this thread is nealy finishing.
I must say sorry to the actual American guy who lives in this thread.

995 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 17:31:57
fix, kicks, sicks... no..

996 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 17:32:25
I got it right!!
You guys are sooo stupid!! LOL!

997 :972:2006/11/09(木) 17:33:11
Just tell us!! What the answer! Pretty please----

998 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 17:35:03
I'll get 1000!!

999 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 17:35:55
come on!!

1000 :名無しさん@英語勉強中:2006/11/09(木) 17:36:12
Level 3





Good job! Let's take a break, and enjoy a little joke!

A foreigner was travelling in the US, and he hit an American accidentally in a corner.
The foreigner: I am sorry.
American: OH! I'm sorry, too.
The foreigner: I am sorry, three.
American: What are you sorry for?
The foreigner: I am sorry, five.

Ok, let's go to level 4.

1001 :1001:Over 1000 Thread
このスレッドは1000を超えました。
もう書けないので、新しいスレッドを立ててくださいです。。。

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